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Terrorist Clue – San Bernadino Shooter Weapons Identified – AK-74 Assault Rifles….
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Posted on 12/02/2015 7:44:56 PM PST by TigerClaws

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To: headstamp 2

I’m sitting here on Free Republic wearing my 7n6 spamcan tshirt. I shoot 5.45x39 every day and I use it in carbine competitions all the time. The picture is of brass, which is obtainable but extremely rare. 5.45 both surplus and domestic is 99% steel. The round in the ground is .223 and this article is moronic.


61 posted on 12/02/2015 8:18:44 PM PST by The Toll
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To: Mariner

The 5.56mm cartridge case has very little to no taper at the base. The reason the magazines of the AK-47/74 series of rifles has such a pronounced curve is due to the noticeably wider base as opposed to the case mouth and the need for the curve in the magazine to ensure proper feeding into the chamber.


62 posted on 12/02/2015 8:20:11 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: Azeem

It looked like some of the Sheriff’s were carrying Ruger mini-14s or mini-30s. Did you notice?


63 posted on 12/02/2015 8:20:12 PM PST by moovova
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To: impimp

Clearly Amish.


64 posted on 12/02/2015 8:21:04 PM PST by Sivad (Juan Corona would vote for Democrats)
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To: IndispensableDestiny

Or even know it came from a suspects gun and not a police weapon.


65 posted on 12/02/2015 8:24:34 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: TYVets

It makes sense now. If Farooq is an Irish terrorist then he is likely an IRA member who is trying spread the violence in Northern Ireland into the United States.


66 posted on 12/02/2015 8:28:02 PM PST by impimp
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To: headstamp 2

Good point. I’m thinking it’s 5.56 because it is brass, not coated steel.


67 posted on 12/02/2015 8:28:12 PM PST by IndispensableDestiny
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To: TigerClaws
AK-74 (note muzzle brake):

and ammo (5.45x39mm):


68 posted on 12/02/2015 8:28:25 PM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: TigerClaws

folks- this is going to be labeled the same way that the fort hood shooter was labeled, ‘a disturbed lone wolf’


69 posted on 12/02/2015 8:35:45 PM PST by Bob434
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To: ctdonath2

I wasn’t saying that is what it was, just saying that the case (even if they got it right that it was 5.45 x 39mm) is no absolute proof that it came from an AK-74.

And there are some ballistic advantages to the 5.45 x 39mm even in an AR platform, especially if you think you might be encountering people wearing body armor and can get ahold of the ‘good stuff ammo’ .

And it is hardly a high effort conversion. You can buy the complete weapon, or swapping uppers is just a matter of pushing two pins out, then slap the new upper in, and push the pins back.

Not that this is an argument that is worth getting into at present.


70 posted on 12/02/2015 8:35:52 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

you forgot to include the poptart chewed into an “L” figure that slightly resembles a gun


71 posted on 12/02/2015 8:37:03 PM PST by Bob434
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To: Nervous Tick

AK with the newer 5.45 x 39 caliber


72 posted on 12/02/2015 8:37:12 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: centurion316

I don’t understand this. If AK-74’s are illegal in California along with high capacity magazines, how did the perps get them? </sarc>


73 posted on 12/02/2015 8:37:30 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: WENDLE
He planned and executed an attack on a Christian celebration of the birth of Jesus our Lord. This was a crazed moslem killing Christians in a religious war!! Praise Jesus.

YES

74 posted on 12/02/2015 8:38:21 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: Nervous Tick

AK47 and AK 74 both made by Kalashnikov. The number denotes the year it was originally made. The AK 47 round is 7.62X39mm.

The AK74 round is 5.45 x39mm. Its a small nasty little round that has high velocity. A longer range than the AK47 also. I own one. Great rifle. Mine’s Bulgarian, very accurate.


75 posted on 12/02/2015 8:39:30 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Paladin2
Full auto capable or items generally available?

BINGO!! That is the key! That is the first thing I asked myself when I heard of it just before I ended the school day where I teach. It sounds to me as if this was a cyclic event, aka full auto. I can't be sure, but it sounds like it from what I'm hearing via witness statements.

76 posted on 12/02/2015 8:39:59 PM PST by ExSoldier ("Terrorists: They hate you yesterday, today, and tomorrow. End it, no more tomorrows for them!)
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To: TigerClaws
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3367426/posts?page=8#8
77 posted on 12/02/2015 8:41:23 PM PST by Grampa Dave (We need Muslim control instead of gun control!!!!)
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To: ImNotLying

Only!!? Are you serious?


78 posted on 12/02/2015 8:42:07 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: centurion316

“This weapon can be found throughout the world, apparently even in California where it is not legal.”

This is NOT True! You can own AK series weapons in California. They have to be equipped with a mag release that requires a “tool” ( the nose of an unexpended cartridge, hence the acronym “bullet button”), and you are limited to 10 round mags. Alternatively, you can remove the “evil features ( i.e. pistol grip, collapsable stock and flash hider), and then you can do away with the BB.


79 posted on 12/02/2015 8:47:52 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Paladin2

“Full auto capable or items generally available?”

You can buy semi-auto AK-74s in the US. Since they were manufactured before the 1986 ban I suspect some might have been imported legally but I’m sure they’re expensive.

More likely if these were original full-auto, they were illegally imported (most former Soviet bloc/Warsaw Pact and some client states used them, including Syria), or they could have been illegally modified, which might be more trouble than it’s worth, but possible.


80 posted on 12/02/2015 8:57:36 PM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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