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Breaking: Donald Trump calls for a complete shutdown of muslims entering the country.
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Posted on 12/07/2015 1:43:31 PM PST by RoosterRedux

No details. Just heard this flipping through news channels


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: donaldthehammer; elections; gotrump; immigration; infiltrators; invasion; islam; jihad; kickasstakenames; moratorium; muslims; terror; trojanhorse; trump; trumpconstitution; trumpmuslims; trumpwasright
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To: brothers4thID

That’s rather anathema to our origins. This country began with immigrating groups who weren’t liked by anyone on either side of the pond.

Careful how you word/work it. “Followers of religion X can’t come here” is functionally equivalent to “arms of type X can’t be imported”, and both infringe on enumerated rights. Beware falling into the seduction of infringing a right by “oh we don’t prohibit X, we’re just hampering your ability to get to it.”

I’ll take the unpopular position of saying: no requirement to state religion on immigration forms. Like RKBA, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” means what it says. Too much of this is sounding like recycled anti-gun rhetoric, just replacing “arms” with “religion”.
We _do_ need to work out other ways of identifying the problem. The correct solutions will stand without sweeping rhetoric (akin to “ban assault weapons!”). If you don’t give a valid address, or are known associated with declared-enemy groups, etc then that should be enough to reject entry. Alas I haven’t yet sufficiently thought of what they are, which will make me a target on FR.


141 posted on 12/07/2015 2:39:16 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: Jim Robinson
Is this why Trump is losing steam in Iowa? At least this is what we are told. I've never ever seen this big of a lead for Trump in Iowa!!!
142 posted on 12/07/2015 2:39:24 PM PST by GilGil
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To: RoosterRedux

It appears that the Trump website has crashed due to this.


143 posted on 12/07/2015 2:40:01 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Jim Robinson

His poll numbers will soar after this.

And for good reason. Americans have had enough of this politically correct crap!


144 posted on 12/07/2015 2:41:11 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: Fresh Wind

“We’re experiencing an unusually high volume of traffic at the moment. We’re Honored That so Many People Want to Show Their Support to Help #MakeAmericaGreatAgain!”


145 posted on 12/07/2015 2:41:37 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Fresh Wind

Wow.

You’re right!

We’ve been letting these people in like they were NAZIs just prior to WWII. Except they are NAZIs POST-WWII.


146 posted on 12/07/2015 2:42:51 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Kenny

Actually, many rights enumerated in the Constitution pertain to “persons”, not “citizens”. That’s why it’s so important to keep them out.


147 posted on 12/07/2015 2:43:53 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: Eddie01; Jim Robinson
Polling data?


148 posted on 12/07/2015 2:45:14 PM PST by Sirius Lee (Cruz or Lose 2016)
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To: RoosterRedux

Trump knows what he’s doing...announce an outrageous and controversial (and perhaps illegal) stance...knowing it is popular. Then soften it with restrictions and details later, all while refusing to back down or apologize. Result: you have now moved the Overton Window in your preferred direction.


149 posted on 12/07/2015 2:45:29 PM PST by montag813
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To: RoosterRedux

Funny. I called for this exact same thing on a Trump-supporting FB page just this morning.

Great minds think alike.


150 posted on 12/07/2015 2:45:37 PM PST by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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To: MadIsh32

Weren’t all of those specific instruction for specific people at a specific time? IOWs those are written accounts of historical events not generalized instructions for all people at all times.


151 posted on 12/07/2015 2:45:42 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: ctdonath2

Well then, so be it. Just another hurdle to negotiate and he will get something in return.


152 posted on 12/07/2015 2:45:53 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: GilGil; RoosterRedux; Albion Wilde; hoosiermama; Amntn; RitaOK; flaglady47; HarleyLady27; ...

Woo hoo!!

Go Trump....all the way to the Oval Office!!!

Make America Safe, AGAIN!!!!


153 posted on 12/07/2015 2:46:16 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: RoosterRedux

Trump will gain 4 or 5 points in the polls.


154 posted on 12/07/2015 2:46:47 PM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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To: Timpanagos1
We would have to exclude people from certain countries, not by religion as the SCOTUS would strike down any law or EO that excluded only Muslims.

Unless you re-classify Islam as a cult or extremist political viewpoint.

155 posted on 12/07/2015 2:47:14 PM PST by montag813
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To: Jane Long

Strike while the iron is hot, don’t let a crisis go to waste, etc..he’s taking the RAT playbook & shoving it in their face. About time someone plays hardball with the loony left.


156 posted on 12/07/2015 2:48:01 PM PST by rainee (Her)
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To: Jane Long

Post fumigation...


157 posted on 12/07/2015 2:48:01 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Come on Obama, just fess up and put the Burka on. Be honest with everyone.)
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To: Jane Long

Three rounds of it...


158 posted on 12/07/2015 2:48:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Come on Obama, just fess up and put the Burka on. Be honest with everyone.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Clear-thinking leaders should seriously consider - and then act on it - shutting down immigration completely until we straighten out the current immigration system mess. However long it takes.


159 posted on 12/07/2015 2:49:58 PM PST by lakecumberlandvet (APPEASEMENT NEVER WORKS.)
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To: Jane Long

What a BEAUTIFUL picture ! :-)


160 posted on 12/07/2015 2:50:05 PM PST by nopardons (more)
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