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Trump hits Scalia over comments on black students
WISN.COM ^ | 13 DECEMBER 2015 | CNN

Posted on 12/13/2015 7:26:48 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Donald Trump says Justice Antonin Scalia's comments about black students performing better in "slower-track" universities are "very tough" to African-Americans.

"I thought it was very tough to the African-American community, actually," Trump told CNN's Jake Tapper in an interview that aired Sunday on "State of the Union."

"I don't like what he said," Trump added. "No, I don't like what he said. I heard him, I was like, 'Let me read it again' because I actually saw it in print, and I'm going -- I read a lot of stuff -- and I'm going, 'Whoa!' "

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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Perish the thought.

It’s twisted that anyone would frame Scalia’s court questioning as racist.


81 posted on 12/13/2015 10:48:43 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Stephen Breyer is 74, Anthony Kennedy and Antonin Scalia are 76 and Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 79. The next president will be extremely significant in terms of the Court, but I don’t think it’s positive to emphasize that until after the election.


82 posted on 12/13/2015 10:58:44 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Oops, old numbers. Correct numbers are:

Stephen Breyer is 77, Anthony Kennedy and Antonin Scalia are 79 and Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 82.


83 posted on 12/13/2015 11:03:33 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“It’s twisted that anyone would frame Scalia’s court questioning as racist.”

Are you kidding?

The favorite accusation of the 21st century is “racism”.

If you favor white cats over black cats it’s racist.

It never ends——and has become meaningless.

.


84 posted on 12/13/2015 11:09:01 AM PST by Mears
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To: Mears
I know they do it.

It's just so evil.

85 posted on 12/13/2015 11:10:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Steve_Seattle

Yes, very true. We’re approaching the point now where they won’t be able to shut him out any longer, and the real Cruz will make himself known nationally.


86 posted on 12/13/2015 11:20:04 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: Hoodat

Thank you :)


87 posted on 12/13/2015 11:20:35 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: Norm Lenhart
"He blamed Pam Gellar for Texas’ Muslim thing."

Yes, he did. And just a few months ago he said we have to accept Syrian refugees. A Freeper recently said that the only thing consistent about him is his inconsistency. Wish I could remember who said it so I could credit him.

" He just called Cruz a mainiac and complained about him speaking the truth about mitch on the Senate floor. He has not hidden his positions. If people choose to pretend they are not what they are, they have nothing to complain about."

And his fans are on the threads trashing Cruz for not being able to "get along"---in other words, reach across the aisle.

88 posted on 12/13/2015 11:24:53 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Exactly. He won’t buried at the end of the stage at debates any longer. As the field narrows and you have debates with 3-4 candidates, silly repetitive platitudes will just make you look like a fool.....Ted really knowing the issues, and actually being a conservative, is going to be destructive to everyone else on the stage with him


89 posted on 12/13/2015 11:29:34 AM PST by thestob (Cruz 2016)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; CatherineofAragon; Finny; Jim Robinson; All
Justice Scalia said: "There are those who contend that it does not benefit African-Americans to get them into the University of Texas where they do not do well, as opposed to having them go to a less-advanced school, a less - a slower-track school where they do well", Scalia said. "One of the briefs pointed out that most of the black scientists in this country don&'t come from schools like the University of Texas."

For a number of years I was a counselor, then Associate Psychologist in Jr. High Schools and High Schools and Junior College. In general, I agree with Justice Scalia, but again, it differs accounting to the individual student so a blanket decision cannot be made.

In a Jr. High School, a new black student enrolled, let us call her Mary. This was in the NASA area south of Houston. The female student's father was an engineer at NASA. They had come from California to NASA. This female black student was intelligent, spoke well, dressed appropriately, and came with excellent grades from the various schools she had attended as her father had moved around quite a bit in his jobs. No matter where she lived in these moving times, she did very well in school. After she had been there for a while, she came to my office and cried. The black girl students shunned her and called her, "Whitey". These black students came from a lower economic area and were a gang of their own. Mary did not fit in their gang so they ridiculed her. It was possible with her grades, she could be Valedictorian when she graduated high school. I have no doubt she would do well at the University of Texas should she choose to go there. I seriously doubt any of the gang of black girls would have even considered going to a college.

What makes the difference between black students and white students (also green and and purple students)? Mostly it is the family for all students. If the parents encourage education, the child is more likely to do well to the best of their ability. If the parents see no reason for education, the child is likely to dislike having to go to school and will not do well.

Junior colleges are the best placement for a student who does not have high scores in high school whether the child has purple or green skin. It is also much more economical for parents who do not have extensive money to send the child to a four year university. If the student does well during those two years, then there is reason to transfer to a four year university. Junior College is excellent to get required subjects, such as English and Math mastered. These colleges are smaller, more centralized, and give students more individual attention and the ability to choose subjects they are interested in and schedule them according to their learning needs, such as signing up for two or three courses or less or more - however many they think they can handle and do well.

I was an associate psychologist/counselor for special needs students at a Jr. College. This Junior College also had a fine occupational program, with a two year certificate to allow the student to become a welder, plumber, construction worker, and other programs to train them to work at oil refining companies and chemical companies in the gulf coast area, many of them very close to that college. Students would be hired as soon as they completed one of those two year programs.

An example of a "learning disabled" student at that junior college:
This male student, let's call him John. He knew he had trouble learning. After every class, every day, he would make an appointment with the instructor and stay with the instructor until he knew/understood every concept the instructor covered in that class that day. He did this religiously every day with every instructor. At some point, I was asked to see the Dean of Education. The Dean told me John was driving his instructors nuts by having to meet with him/her every day. I laughed, good for John! What a great kid! He knew he had to learn and he was determined to do it. I had no doubt John had a great future in front of him. Junior College was the place he needed to be at that time, not a big four year university where he would get lost in the crowd.

So, I agree, with reservations, with Scalia. Four year universities do not fit all students and certainly not those who have had lesser grades in high school for whatever reason.

90 posted on 12/13/2015 11:55:46 AM PST by Marcella (CRUZ (Prepping can save your life today.))
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To: thestob

Exactly.

Speaking of the field narrowing, when are all those also-rans going to get out? It’s past time.


91 posted on 12/13/2015 12:11:41 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: CatherineofAragon; Norm Lenhart; sitetest; Hoodat; Cincinatus' Wife

Watch the video at the link. Notice that when Tapper asks Trump if he still supports affirmative action, Trump evades the question.


92 posted on 12/13/2015 1:59:30 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Rush talked about Scalia’s comments on Friday (I think). Rush hit pretty hard on those who criticized Scalia for it. I wonder if he’ll weigh in on this. Somehow I doubt it.


93 posted on 12/13/2015 2:02:16 PM PST by FourPeas (Tone matters.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Thomas Sowell has said the same sort of thing, where university “diversity” programs, in their race to enroll Blacks into their programs, don’t give a damn that most simply aren’t prepared for the sort of work required of them.

The incident of Blacks dropping out of many of these “top” universities is glossed over, and the students would have done better going to less “prestigious” universities.

Mark


94 posted on 12/13/2015 3:55:26 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: BillyBoy; sickoflibs

Fail.


95 posted on 12/13/2015 5:54:42 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy

Puke. So Trump is joining the choir of Harry Reid, Al Sharpton, and Larry Wilmore (a black Marxist wannabe successor to Jon Stewart — even Stewart’s true successor on The Daily Show won’t try the “Scalia’s a racist” BS) to push the “he offended the African american community” talking point on this issue.

Ironically, Sharpton accused Scalia of sounding like Trump.


96 posted on 12/13/2015 7:21:52 PM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: CatherineofAragon; metmom

I think Trump is still behind the learning curve. That does not mean he should not be president this time around, but it does mean that when it comes to constitutional law and other such matters, he should defer to someone like Mark Levin or Rush — they both have a sound understanding of constitutional law.

He does not even have to state publicly if he puts them on his phone list. And rather than jump out there with kneejerk responses [which are fine when retorting to media toadies, etc], Trump should take constitutional law as the most serious topic on earth.


97 posted on 12/14/2015 3:09:20 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC 2012 Convention actually booed God three times)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; VideoDoctor; MarkL; marktwain

Georgia Girl 2, I found someone who backs you up.

“Trump [said that] Roberts was an embarrassment and a big disappointment and that Thomas was his favorite and that Scalia was also very high on his list of respected SC Justices.” — videodoctor

[VideoDoctor also added a youtube link at his post ...]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3372042/posts?page=306#306

I am really glad to hear that.

Trump also said he was pro-life. I have a terse quote anyway:

~~~~~~

Trump Gives Young Feminist the Brush-Off on Equal Pay and Abortion

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3347978/posts

” ...and I happen to be pro-life. Okay? I’m pro-life.”

[And he hates the organ harvesting outrages with a white hot passion, just like Cruz.]


98 posted on 12/14/2015 5:37:29 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC 2012 Convention actually booed God three times)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“Four years ago, some here warned about playing games with candidates. Those games resulted in THE most liberal ‘Republican” in the history of the GOP getting nominated. That is a fact. That man lost and drove the party hard left.”

And we have not recovered.


99 posted on 12/14/2015 8:22:37 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Pollster1

“The next president will be extremely significant in terms of the Court, but I don’t think it’s positive to emphasize that until after the election.”

That is a thoughtful consideration, but it sounds ‘old school’. The old media has created artificial ‘mainstream’ mindsets in people. The most recent example is that only a wacko would ban muslim immigrants.

I think people are furious about the old Kelo justices who are often gun-grabbers and who voted in support of Zero-care [especially when reminded]. They would amend the Constitution to have such creeps removed from the bench if given half a chance.

Maybe it’s a single issue you are concerned about?

Do you think that abortion is popular in the midst of Planned Parenthood? Even before that outrage, 85 percent are opposed to frivolous abortions, which means Americans never truly supported an abortion right except in extreme instances: rape, incest, life-of-mother.


100 posted on 12/15/2015 2:50:13 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC 2012 Convention actually booed God three times)
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