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Full Title - Levin: Trump 'Really Screwed Up' On Scalia, Cruz, Ethanol, Anyone 'Moderately Conservative' Disagrees With Him

Levin further argued that "populism without conservatism is liberalism. Even more precisely, populism without conservatism is Statism."

1 posted on 12/14/2015 7:37:07 PM PST by Isara
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To: Isara

Levin really screwed the goat tonight. He is finished!!


2 posted on 12/14/2015 7:41:45 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: Isara

Pretty soon there will be no more conservatives, only Trump.


3 posted on 12/14/2015 7:41:48 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God)
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To: Isara

For Trump: “The beginning of the end.”


4 posted on 12/14/2015 7:43:36 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Isara

The more Levin opens his mouth, the less credibility he has.


11 posted on 12/14/2015 7:53:13 PM PST by Reno89519 (American Lives Matter! US Citizen, Veteran, Conservative, Republican. I vote. Trump 2016.)
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To: Isara
“populism without conservatism is liberalism. Even more precisely, populism without conservatism is Statism.”

It's been obvious for some time that the underlying theme of Trump's campaign is big-government statism. "We're going to take care of everyone - Get used to it, conservatives!", the hand out war with Bush during the debate over who could spend the most money, proposing more "governmental programs" supposedly to help with student loans, pledging to enact an executive order to mandate sentences (this flies in the face of both federalism and separation of powers), praise of single-payer healthcare and his own 'universal' healthcare proposal - "the government will pay for it!", etc.

13 posted on 12/14/2015 8:00:56 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Isara

If someone acts like a liberal, talks like a liberal, attacks Antonin Scalia and Ted Cruz like a liberal, then he’s a liberal. Donald Trump is a liberal.

Which means that if Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh continue to support Donald Trump, then they’re liberals, too.


16 posted on 12/14/2015 8:02:28 PM PST by Bluestocking
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To: Isara

Today Rush also expressed concerns if Trump may be another McCain after mentioning his desire to reach across the aisle.


21 posted on 12/14/2015 8:06:48 PM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: Isara

The Socialist/Democrat/Marxist/Communist/Globalists have been undermining the US Constitution for many years. If Levin thinks that the great unwashed and relatively uninformed will vote for Cruz; who has been actively advocating against abortion and gay marriage, the issues that make conservatives pariahs, will vote for Cruz then he’s out of touch. The social conservative issues are not popular issues with the majority of Americans. I am not saying Cruz is wrong, but in this time, these are not the issues that would enable him to win.

We must win incrementally.

There is NOTHING more conservative than stopping a permanent democrat/marxist voting majority and doing whats best for the people and the country. By virtue of Mr.Trump’s position on illegal immigration he Trumps all others conservatism.

Trump is a deal maker. He has made a deal with the American people. He won’t squelch on the deal.


22 posted on 12/14/2015 8:08:23 PM PST by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: Isara

First Rush and now Levin? The GOPe must have something on them both! Ofr maybe thtas where all Yeb’s money is going to?


26 posted on 12/14/2015 8:14:52 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Isara

The majority of Trumps support are liberals or the Ron Paul wing...and many Obama voters.


27 posted on 12/14/2015 8:15:35 PM PST by gwgn02
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To: Isara

I agree with Mark.

Trump swung and missed on Scalia.

He swung and missed on Ethonal.

And he struck out on attacking Cruz’ heroic defiance of the scumbags in the Senate.

However, I am not inspired by Ted’s actions. He is alleged to have questioned Trump’s judgment without detailed specifics. If the allegation is untrue, he made no attempt to issue a press release that the allegation was false. A day later, Trump challenged Cruz to say to his face what was questionable about his judgment. Ted did not respond.

And a day later yet, Ted backed the GOPe in stating that a brokered convention was not cheating. While that is true, that was not the context. The context was whether a brokered convention was FAIR, not whether it was cheating.

Because Ted possesses a brilliant intellect, and because he is articulate, he had a chance to shine in his response. He did not shine.

Therefore, the flap is not a dealbreaker for Trump supporters.

The Scalia and Ethanol issues are of concern but are not substantial.

Regarding affirmative action, any president will not have the power to shut down court challenges to AA. In this day and age, AA can only be supported on grounds that discrimination is allowed by colleges and employers which today is truly part of a bygone era. Most of the lawsuits are in state courts and federal law bars discrimunation, so it’s dead all around. A president can’t do much in this area, if anything. He can appoint judges, but they don’t have a law to use, so any misrulings will in time be overturned. That’s what’s happened in the last 20 years and there’s nothing in society that would change that trajectory.

As for Ethanol, it was as mentioned above, a swing and miss. The game and series are still in play, and this one issue is not costing the whole season. Therefore, it will be forgotten soon enough.

But it’s good that Donald is put on the hot seat to persuade conservatives of his genuineness.

I look at Donald as a bear who saw Ted Cruz getting a little too close to the honey pot. The reaction was predictable. Ted is damaged broadly, whereas Donald has to face conservatives now and keep their vote.

All in all, these two fine candidates shot each other in the foot. I hope next week they can recover.

I’ve always said Donald has broader appeal than Ted, and it’s true. And we can’t gamble on a lower margin candidate like Ted, We have to trust in Donald.

Donald is rock solid on defense, borders, trade, immigration, terrorism, jobs, taxes, debt. He’s tough, very very tough. And we need this kind of toughness, a no prisoners type of approach.

Scalia, Ethanol, Cruz are all minor concerns next to Donald’s bedrock issues.

Mark can have his rant and he’s justified in it, but I predict this is forgotten soon enough.

People should know by now that Donald says the most outrageous things and gets people talking. Then he comes back with a more reasonable settlement offer. That’s what he does, that’s who he is.


28 posted on 12/14/2015 8:15:45 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Isara

What do we have now, Mr. Levin? Would we move the marker closer to our union with Mr. Trump or farther away?


30 posted on 12/14/2015 8:16:06 PM PST by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: Isara

I’m not voting for Trump because I think he’s conservative. I’m voting for him because he is a patriot who loves America. He is conservative on the issues that count RIGHT NOW. And one more thing, Cruz is turning into an establishment candidate. I hate to say it, but my trust in him is diminishing.


40 posted on 12/14/2015 8:34:08 PM PST by bigtoona (Lose on amnesty, socialism cemented in place forever! Trump is the only hope.)
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To: Isara

Trump is saying the right the things, the things on all our minds. But he has no political record to show us other than that he went from being a registered Republican to an Independent, to a Democrat, to an Independent and back to a Republican.

He is tapping in on the emotions of shell shocked Conservatives living in an 0bamanation hell the last 7 years. The Republicans have not nominated a Conservative candidate since 1984. We so badly want the rock solid Conservative. But truthfully, I really don’t think it’s Trump.
Trump is a smart man. He owns the media. But he is also owning the voters. We need to be careful. We need to look at his political past. We need to pay attention he has contributed almost equally to Republicans and Democrats over the years. We need face the fact he very well could be playing us and may not be all he is saying.

Keep in mind, he was a Democrat as from 2001 to 2009. truth is, we won’t know what we are getting with Trump until he is elected.

I, along with a lot of others, have been energized by Trump. I like what he says. I like the way he eats the media up. I like his confidence. I like his message. But.... I question if he is for real.

He very well may be for real and could lead this country on revival. Or he culd end up to be just another New York liberal Republican. But we won’t know for sure unless he is elected.

Bu we do KNOW Ted Cruz is a fighter for Conservatism. All the establishment pukes on both sides hate him. He has fought a losing battle since he came to DC, but has never given up.

I think we are safer with Cruz.

All Mark Levin is trying to do is make us see Trump is not the perfect candidate. He does have flaws. Attacking another Conservative is bad move.

Thats all.


103 posted on 12/14/2015 9:49:15 PM PST by Angels27
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To: Isara; sickoflibs; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; randita; yongin
Levin further argued that "populism without conservatism is liberalism. Even more precisely, populism without conservatism is Statism."

Couldn't agree more.

107 posted on 12/14/2015 10:06:26 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Isara

http://www.aei.org/publication/message-to-the-gop-trump-supports-amnesty/

www.alipac.us/f12/donald-trump-endorses-amnesty-illegal-aliens-321618/

http://www.newsweek.com/who-knew-trump-favors-amnesty-undocumented-immigrants-395512

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/11/04/rubio-trump-used-to-support-amnesty-and-the-dream-act-before-running-for-president-you-know/

http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/so-now-trump-supports-amnesty.432809/

http://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2015/07/27/donald-trump-endorses-amnesty-for-illegal-aliens-by-daniel-greenfield-see-note-please/

www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?485915-Trump-Calls-For-Amnesty

http://republicbroadcasting.org/news/trumps-support-for-amnesty-will-sink-his-campaign/


115 posted on 12/14/2015 11:25:59 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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http://www.glennbeck.com/2015/07/09/pro-choice-pro-amnesty-pro-oprah-all-the-reasons-you-should-not-vote-for-donald-trump/


116 posted on 12/14/2015 11:26:35 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Isara

Yes he did but in reality Mark and Rush, only Faux News and Talk Radio care. This will be over in three days and so will the “Cruz Surge.”


131 posted on 12/15/2015 3:33:09 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Isara

I know some don’t want to hear this again but it bears repeating.

Trump’s past political giving may indicate the type of administration he’d run:

Feb. 2010, in the heat of the battle, Trump gave $2,000 to Anthony Weiner for his primary campaign;

Dec. 2009, he gave Chuck Schumer $400 for his primary, and $1,600 for gen. election. Plus another $2,000 to Schumer in his primary in May, 2009. You might be able to justify this one because he’s from N.Y. but they don’t get much slimier than Schumer.

In Oct. 2009, he gave $2,400 to the Charley Crist campaign for senate plus another $2,400 that he gave in Crist’s primary.

Nov. 2009, he gave $1,700 to the HIllary Clinton for President campaign fund and the next day he gave $2,300.

He gave $2,400 to Friends for Harry Reid and also gave to the RINO John McCain.

Jan. of 2000, Trump said, we must have universal health care and gave an example of what is currently a Canadian style health care system.

Oct. 15, 2000, Trump stated that Nancy Pelosi was a wonderful person and he thought she should have impeached Bush for the war in Iraq. He stated that Bush was a disaster - the worst president ever. He repeated those sentiments again in 2004 and again in 2008, calling Bush, “…so bad, so evil and so incompetent.”

Nov. 1, 2008, Trump praised Obama saying he thought he had a chance to be a great president, not a bull run like Bush. He said Obama, (this is rich) wouldn’t be like Bush, just doing stuff (like the war in Iraq) because he wanted to. He said he thought Obama would be a consensus president and that he thought he had done, “an amazing job” so far.

Recently he stated that he wants Paul Ryan to do a bipartisan bill with the Dems and the president on health care.

Trump has given contributions to some of the most/worst left wing ideologues in the nation - those that hate conservatives and Tea Party types with a passion. You have to ask why? Did he expect to get something back from these people - like favors for his many building projects? Or, worse perhaps, does he see the world like they do? You have to ask how committed to conservative causes he would be given the above two questions and his Johnny-come-lately move to the conservative side. Trump never attended a single Tea Party rally or cause. The man is a pragmatic populists at best who appears to love his country but who is first and foremost for Donald Trump before everything else. He may build the fence and he may get American business back on its feet - but in the process he will severely break other things.


157 posted on 12/15/2015 12:45:07 PM PST by Lake Living
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