Posted on 12/15/2015 9:51:08 AM PST by Red Steel
“Not to mention, litmus testing based on religion is completely against our Constitution under any circumstances “
Islam isn’t a religion. It is a form of government masquerading as a religion.
Death to nonbelievers, takeover of countries, installing a caliphate, all in the Qur’an. Not to mention Sharia Law.
“religions” that are diametrically opposed to our Constitution are not given protection.
That would require Trump to walk back something he said, and he doesn't do that. Ever.
But regardless, even 90% raises the question of how? How do you identify them? How do you ensure they don't get in? Nobody can seem to answer that. You say you would need to spend an hour or so with every single person entering the country in order to identify the Muslims. Do you have any idea how many thousands of people enter the U.S. every day? Spending an hour with each of the hundreds of people entering on a jumbo jet from France or Japan or every country in between? Do you honestly think that's doable?
Banning folks from terrorist countries (heavily moslem) like Sen. Cruz had previously proposed, would probably work better.
That's not what Trump is proposing.
OK so let's look at that. "...until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on." What exactly does that mean? And if you can define it then what constitutes a win and a chance to end the ban?
You say "...until we can figure out how to vet them..." Vet them how? Documentation? Background investigations? Police surveillance? You say, "If Muslim countries wants to help us by providing data, it can go quicker." What about the rest of the world? What are you expecting from those, especially those countries we don't require visas?
With trump, whatever percentage were reliably stopped would be the criterion for “victory.” And anyone who raised the issue of “it’s not 100% total and complete” would be shouted down, and bullied. trump’s acolytes would proceed to demonize the heretic.
I’m with you. I don’t think a religious test will work well. I would rather do it by country.
As I said, I don’t agree with trump on this issue. It’s just one reason why I’m for :
Cruz or lose. America.
Vet them the same way Cruz would of the Muslims from the designated countries.
I used Germans as an illustration because those were some folks I knew myself. But WWI abuses of foreign nationals by American “racists and bigots” were indeed more widespread. That’s what makes me wonder how bad the treatment of Japanese people would have been after Pearl Harbor had they not been interned. Actually, I don’t wonder at all; I’m sure lives were saved.
But again, I’m not defending it. Internment as practiced was unfair and un-American.
The fact we can’t even call it for what it really was proves bow unjust it was. They were Concentration Camps.
Internment makes the bitter pill tolerable. The fact that prisoners weren’t flagrantly abused or neglected doesn’t change the fact either.
The whole thing is a horrific violation of habeas corpus and a terrible precedent.
I agree that Islam is a political entity more than a religion, but it is classified by our government as a religion, as is many other groups that masquerade as religions, but are nothing more than cults. However, the Constitution still protects religion and speech even if you don’t like that religion or speech. Without those protections, many libs would condemn FR and most conservatives as terrorist and try to shut us up too.
Religions that contradict the Constitution and whose prime objective is to Infiltrate and take over our government need to be reclassified.
I don’t disagree, but that creates an extremely slippery slope and the President does not and should not have that sole authority.
You post that as a joke but the reality is they were safer there than on the street. There was plenty of hatred for the Japanese in the land that made it unsafe for them. Look at how many millions volunteered the next day and ask yourself whom were they volunteering to fight and kill.
Kill the whole family of a terrorist. What do i care?
This is war and the left doesn’t mind dying, that’s fine. But myself and my family aren’t going to die because of them.
We could have NEVER EVER won WWII today.
My people caught a little flack at the beginning of the war, but we had a huge docks presence and it was soon apparent Italy was no major threat lol.
Far cry from the Roman Empire.
There were a lot of spies. I stared a thread on this issue the day before Trump announced it.
Does he follow FR?
The Japanese that followed their national religion Shintoism believed the Emperor was god on Earth. That being the case, they all posed a potential threat to America. What if their ‘god’ told them to attack us?
Do you realize how many lives would be lost and troops required to fight a 5th column within our borders?
Here’s the thread on this topic a day or two before Trump announced his Muslim ban:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3369347/posts
Trump a FR member?
There are some who are better, and more equal, and of more noble character, and who know what was in the hearts and minds of Japanese some 75 years ago, and wish/want all wars to be fair.
I have wondered if Trump reads FR. He probably does.
That's probably THE stupidest thing that ANYONE could possibly say about WAR!
Since WHEN has ANY war been "FAIR"? Good grief....wars are about killing, beating the enemy, and winning!
Go back and read the posts on this thread, and wonder, how does one conduct a fair world war?
Simple, under current law the President has absolute authority to restrict immigration or refuge status to any country or group he chooses.
Those Trumpicopter rides are nuthin' when it comes to building up his ground game.
His campaign uses eventbrite to hand out tickets to his immense rallies. Through it, he automatically gains an electronic mailing list to people who went out of their way to attend his rallies. Imagine not just the value but the sheer volume of this growing list. No other campaign has this, not even the RNC itself.
Then at the rallies themselves, they have further recruitment and gotv efforts, especially in Iowa, where they instruct all that new fresh blood into navigating the caucuses.
No polling outfit seems to know how to measure all these things to gauge Trump's ground game. But his ground game exists, and it's growing.
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