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THE WINNER OF THE RUBIO-CRUZ IMMIGRATION FIGHT? DONALD TRUMP
Powerline ^ | December 18, 2013 | PAUL MIRENGOFF

Posted on 12/19/2015 2:05:59 PM PST by Hojczyk

However, Rubio is still the loser of this debate. Unlike the Florida man, Cruz never co-sponsored immigration reform with Chuck Schumer, but instead opposed that legislation. And Cruz, though he seems to have favored amnesty (in the sense of a path to legalization), never favored a path to citizenship, as Rubio did. To me, and probably a great many other Republicans, granting citizenship to those who violated our immigration laws is significantly more egregious than permitting them to remain here with legal status.

But this doesn’t mean Cruz is the winner. Why? Because Donald Trump has insisted that illegal immigrants can never become legal unless they leave the country. This is a harder line position than what Cruz favored in 2013.

For the first time, Cruz seems vulnerable to his right on the key issue of immigration. And he’s vulnerable to the frontrunner in the race.

Cruz, though, has probably understood for some time that his prospects depend on Trump faltering at some stage. For now, his campaign will probably be satisfied if he has struck a major blow against Rubio, the candidate most likely to stand his way if the

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1 posted on 12/19/2015 2:05:59 PM PST by Hojczyk
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2 posted on 12/19/2015 2:08:23 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Hojczyk
To me, and probably a great many other Republicans, granting citizenship to those who violated our immigration laws is significantly more egregious than permitting them to remain here with legal status.

Anyone who thinks the dumbocraps wont make citizens out of anyone with legal status is nuts.


3 posted on 12/19/2015 2:09:34 PM PST by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: Hojczyk

A narrow, forgetful, view.

Rubio did this to Trump first: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/05/donald-trump-marco-rubio-spar-immigration-reform/


4 posted on 12/19/2015 2:09:42 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Hojczyk

I think Rubio is clearly on the wrong side.
I think Cruz is on the right side.

I do think the media has been somewhat successful in spinning Cruz’s actions as “flip-flipping” or something.

Trump shows the way: be blunt, be crude, make sure people know what side you’re on.

The media loses power when they cannot possibly spin your position.


5 posted on 12/19/2015 2:09:47 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (I don't know what Claire Wolfe is thinking but I know what I am thinking.)
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To: dragnet2

Trump is letting Cruz-Rubio kill each other for second place which leaves Trump to have no challengers at all and solidify his increasing lead. Brilliant!


6 posted on 12/19/2015 2:17:24 PM PST by GilGil
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To: 867V309

“Anyone who thinks the dumbocraps wont make citizens out of anyone with legal status is nuts.”

+1


7 posted on 12/19/2015 2:17:50 PM PST by Pelham (Muslim immigration...the enemy is inside the wire.)
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TRUMP: Vladimir Putin's praise is 'a great honor'


Business Insider ^ | December 17, 2015 | By Maxwell Tani

Republican US presidential front-runner Donald Trump is apparently "honored" that Russian President Vladimir Putin considers the real-estate magnate a "flamboyant" and "very talented" man.

"It is always a great honor to be so nicely complimented by a man so highly respected within his own country and beyond," Trump said in a statement, according to Politico.

He continued: "I have always felt that Russia and the United States should be able to work well with each other towards defeating terrorism and restoring world peace, not to mention trade and all of the other benefits derived from mutual respect."

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8 posted on 12/19/2015 2:20:12 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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“To me, and probably a great many other Republicans, granting citizenship to those who violated our immigration laws is significantly more egregious than permitting them to remain here with legal status.”

To me, waryone, both granting them citizenship and permitting them to remain here with legal status stinks. I really don’t care what the establishment and GOP elites think.


9 posted on 12/19/2015 2:22:31 PM PST by Waryone
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THE WINNER OF THE RUBIO-CRUZ IMMIGRATION FIGHT? DONALD TRUMP

Yep.
10 posted on 12/19/2015 2:22:56 PM PST by JoSixChip
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"This is a harder line position than what Cruz favored in 2013."

In 2013 Trump favored path to citizenship, as did Rubio, whereas Cruz never did:

http://nbclatino.com/2013/08/22/donald-trump-tells-immigrant-advocates-youve-convinced-me/
11 posted on 12/19/2015 2:23:07 PM PST by kik5150
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To: JoSixChip

Cruz also has to win this fight for number 2. It is like a job interview with Trump where Cruz has to show him how he handles himself and wins. If he does not win number 2, Trump will have doubts about him.


12 posted on 12/19/2015 2:26:31 PM PST by GilGil
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To: ClearCase_guy
This whole Trump is rude and crude and blah blah needs to stop why?

Because How do you ask someone to politely:

By being vocal, not accepting the terms of the debate, and telling the truth about the the elites of this country one is considered crude. I do not think so.

13 posted on 12/19/2015 2:27:10 PM PST by datricker (The war for civilization is on! For Victory Vote Trump)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Trump shows the way: be blunt, be crude, make sure people know what side you're on. The media loses power when they cannot possibly spin your position.

I would have to disagree, the msm has misquoted Trump on numerous occasions. For example when the msm said that Trump labeled all Mexicans as murders and rapist.
14 posted on 12/19/2015 2:27:45 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: GilGil
If Rubio's star continues to fade, it will come down to Trump vs. Cruz as it should. The GOPe choices will boil down to (a)backing Cruz and thinking they can control him with money, (b)backing Trump and thinking he will revert to the Romneyesque positions he held last election cycle, (c)subtle sabotage to elect Hillary Clinton which may not work with the number of blue collar Democrats who Trump may win over.

I'm betting on (c) with a remote possibility of (b). Least likely is (a).

15 posted on 12/19/2015 2:28:10 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: ETL
TRUMP: Vladimir Putin's praise is 'a great honor'

Is that a problem for you?
16 posted on 12/19/2015 2:29:14 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: Vigilanteman

We shall see indeed.

Trump will run the table in February in a total blow out.

He will then fillet Hillary. How delicious.


17 posted on 12/19/2015 2:29:46 PM PST by GilGil
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THE WINNER OF THE RUBIO-CRUZ IMMIGRATION FIGHT? DONALD TRUMP
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The American citizens

We finally have some representation


18 posted on 12/19/2015 2:30:33 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: kik5150

Ahh, the lies persist because of unscrupulous Cruz supporters. This was a second person account from an illegal Mexican. You really don’t belong in an adult conversation, perhaps you go over to DU. I’m sure you’d be more at home among your own.


19 posted on 12/19/2015 2:33:59 PM PST by JoSixChip
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It should be a problem for any American who knows anything at all about Putin.


20 posted on 12/19/2015 2:39:04 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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