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What's Happening in Oregon Is Nothing Less Than Armed Sedition
Esquire ^ | January 3rd, 2016 | By Charles P. Pierce

Posted on 01/03/2016 2:50:08 PM PST by Mariner

"If three years ago any person had told me that at this day, I should see such a formidable rebellion against the laws & constitutions of our own making as now appears I should have thought him a bedlamite—a fit subject for a mad house."

—George Washington to Henry Knox, on the subject of Shays Rebellion, February 3, 1787

You have to give Captain Daniel Shays this: When he launched his armed sedition against lawful authority, he at least was invited in. Overnight on Saturday, in an obscure corner of the Oregon wilderness, and contrary to the law, and in defiance of democratic authority, both federal and local, another act of armed sedition was committed. It seems to me that this ought to be a bigger story than, say, the belated prosecution of Bill Cosby, or whatever most recently came out of the mouth of the vulgar talking yam. In a small place in Oregon, the essential compact of the United States of America has come apart.

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To: Mariner

Is it sedition or rebellion? It looks like rebellion to me, even though it may be misguided.


21 posted on 01/03/2016 3:02:26 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: Jim Robinson
"Are they finally going after Obama?"

I wish...

22 posted on 01/03/2016 3:02:46 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Southack

Nobody is egging anyone. I know these people. I know the Bundy’s. They truly believe, as I do, that they are in the right. There is a war on the West and we are living it everyday. The Federal government, under the banner of public lands management, is taking our freedoms away every single day. If you knew the battles we face everyday, you couldn’t possibly say what you just said. This was inevitable. And America’s about to see how vicious this government is. I believe it will turn violent. And so be it.


23 posted on 01/03/2016 3:02:52 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Mariner

Is the MSM covering this story?


24 posted on 01/03/2016 3:03:44 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Mariner

The lily-livered majority did not support the War for Independence in 1776 either. That’s why George Washington’s troops lacked shoes to wear in the snow at Valley Forge. The cowardly majority considered the Patriots to be madmen and many went to their graves as loyalists to the British throne.


25 posted on 01/03/2016 3:03:57 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: Southack

Are you involved with these people? It’s not a setup. But the ending is inevitable and if it’s what the American people need to see what their government thinks of them and what they are prepared to do to them, so be it.


26 posted on 01/03/2016 3:04:03 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Mariner
In a small place in Oregon, the essential compact of the United States of America has come apart.

When this country has a chief executive who routinely ignores the constitutional limits placed on his office, who cozens favor with foreign despots to the detriment of his own people, who repeatedly uses the force of his authority to deprive his own citizens of their legal rights, and who evinces not even the slightest remorse for his devotion to tyranny, then the "essential compact of the United States" has already dissolved.

27 posted on 01/03/2016 3:04:41 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Mariner

All true, but for what?

300 “rebels” winning a firefight would give Obama carte blanche to impose nationwide gun control via Executive Order.

It’s *precisely* the sort of easily-squashed crisis that he would love to see.

Reichstag Fire.


28 posted on 01/03/2016 3:05:04 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Mariner

I’m sure king George felt the same way, and I bet the British media agreed with him.


29 posted on 01/03/2016 3:05:56 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Mariner

Not good. Not good at all.


30 posted on 01/03/2016 3:06:31 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Look closely at any evil and most times you'll find the unmistakable handprint of caesar.)
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To: Hildy

The militia:

-Was here before the nation was founded

-Sent representatives to the state legislatures to vote on the Constitution.

-Ensured the Constitution was amended to place specific liberties beyond the purview of government.

-Approved the Constitution.

-Fought in all America’s wars.

-Will still be in America long after the current form of government has collapsed.


31 posted on 01/03/2016 3:07:42 PM PST by Justa
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To: Hildy

Yes, you could easily see a Branch Davidian Waco re-enactment again, this time in Oregon. Federal over-reaction is expected...

...but there is no sudden federal land crisis/issue. Federal treatment of land has varied little today from how bad it was 40 years ago.

It’s the claim of a sudden “crisis” that reeks of Reichstag Fire.

Know when you are being duped.


32 posted on 01/03/2016 3:08:20 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Hildy
"This was inevitable"

It's not as if it hasn't been brewing for a hundred years...

I just returned from a trip to Nevada today. In that state the Federal Government own more than 80% of the land mass. That's bad enough, but the problem is they manage it too.

Actively.

The bureaucrats can come up with a million problems to be solved and easily another 10 million jobs to be filled.

33 posted on 01/03/2016 3:09:27 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: InterceptPoint
"Is the MSM covering this story?"

No.

34 posted on 01/03/2016 3:10:01 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Mariner

“Full Story on What’s Going on In Oregon” Militia Take Over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge In Protest to Hammond Family Persecution

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/


35 posted on 01/03/2016 3:10:08 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: dfwgator

“Full Story on What’s Going on In Oregon” Militia Take Over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge In Protest to Hammond Family Persecution

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/


36 posted on 01/03/2016 3:10:45 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Mariner

These morons need to leave that building ASAP.


37 posted on 01/03/2016 3:10:48 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: Mariner

If this is armed sedition (which it arguably is, even if in a good cause), why was it OK to let the BLM nuts in Baltimore commit mayhem? After all, “it’s only property.”

In Baltimore it was private property. In Oregon, a building otherwise abandoned for the winter is STATE property. An insult to the STATE can not stand. /S


38 posted on 01/03/2016 3:11:35 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Southack
"It’s *precisely* the sort of easily-squashed crisis that he would love to see."

He doesn't have the will or the guts for it.

39 posted on 01/03/2016 3:11:58 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Southack

“Full Story on What’s Going on In Oregon” Militia Take Over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge In Protest to Hammond Family Persecution

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/


40 posted on 01/03/2016 3:12:04 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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