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What's Happening in Oregon Is Nothing Less Than Armed Sedition
Esquire ^ | January 3rd, 2016 | By Charles P. Pierce

Posted on 01/03/2016 2:50:08 PM PST by Mariner

"If three years ago any person had told me that at this day, I should see such a formidable rebellion against the laws & constitutions of our own making as now appears I should have thought him a bedlamite—a fit subject for a mad house."

—George Washington to Henry Knox, on the subject of Shays Rebellion, February 3, 1787

You have to give Captain Daniel Shays this: When he launched his armed sedition against lawful authority, he at least was invited in. Overnight on Saturday, in an obscure corner of the Oregon wilderness, and contrary to the law, and in defiance of democratic authority, both federal and local, another act of armed sedition was committed. It seems to me that this ought to be a bigger story than, say, the belated prosecution of Bill Cosby, or whatever most recently came out of the mouth of the vulgar talking yam. In a small place in Oregon, the essential compact of the United States of America has come apart.

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To: Mariner

No tyranny in the US according to the author. Okay...


41 posted on 01/03/2016 3:12:06 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Hildy

“Full Story on What’s Going on In Oregon” Militia Take Over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge In Protest to Hammond Family Persecution

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/


42 posted on 01/03/2016 3:13:07 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Mariner

Icelanders I think it was, there the people over took the Gov’t and won................”Icelanders Overthrow Government and Rewrite Constitution After Banking Fraud-No Word From US Media “ Heck if they can do it anything is possible. God Speed to the people in Oregon
http://guardianlv.com/2013/12/icelanders-overthrow-government-and-rewrite-constitution-after-banking-fraud-no-word-from-us-media/


43 posted on 01/03/2016 3:13:51 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: Mariner
It's what Obama wants for his forthcoming Executive Order:
Obama To Issue Executive Order For National Gun Control
44 posted on 01/03/2016 3:14:50 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Hildy

Yes Hildy. People need to know what the govt. has done to these people! This is a bit of a long read, but if one is interested in this story, here’s where to go for the facts about the govts unconstitutional behavior;

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/


45 posted on 01/03/2016 3:15:28 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Mariner

Did Chuckie get his panties in a knot again?


46 posted on 01/03/2016 3:16:23 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Mariner
Another open, armed defiance of US Authority?

My irony meter is spiking over the fact that the article on the FR page just above this article reads

Chicago airport police told to "run and hide" in event of active shooter.

47 posted on 01/03/2016 3:16:25 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Hildy

An injury to one is an injury to all.


48 posted on 01/03/2016 3:17:37 PM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Why can’t we forget about all this unpleasantness and go back to posting pictures of Gadsden flags and talking tough?
We don’t want to hear that the federal government is a grasping bully trying to do to the Hammonds what it tried to do to the Bundys.


49 posted on 01/03/2016 3:18:14 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: virgil
"FBI crime statistics for 2015 are going to be heavily edited by the regime. "

Always look at the homicide statistics, and ignore the rest. It's as hard for politicians to hide all the dead bodies as it is for the murderers.

50 posted on 01/03/2016 3:18:31 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve." - Alexis de Tocqueville (1805-1859))
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To: Georgia Girl 2

So the feds should just gun them down?


51 posted on 01/03/2016 3:18:57 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Georgia Girl 2

That’s my sense of things as well. But the full account of how the Feds went after the ranchers in that area is appalling. I’d have been shooting me some unaccountable bureaucrats a long time ago.


52 posted on 01/03/2016 3:21:49 PM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“BLM” now has a doubly poor connotation


53 posted on 01/03/2016 3:22:23 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Southack
"Obama To Issue Executive Order For National Gun Control"

A lot of good that will do him.

54 posted on 01/03/2016 3:23:48 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Southack

I think the Bundy kids are dumb enough to pull this all on their own.


55 posted on 01/03/2016 3:23:54 PM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Hildy

[[This was inevitable. And America’s about to see how vicious this government is. I believe it will turn violent. And so be it.]]

Bears Repeating Hildy- Many are saying this isn’t the hill to die on- but like you say this has been brewing for a long long time- so the question becomes if not this hill then which hill? The reason the government has become so draconian is because people kept saying ‘this isn’t the hill to die on’ and simply put up with more and m ore and more restriction- the government has been pushing pushing pushing- and the people have been ceding ceding ceding ground, and now we’re in the position we are today because no one took a stand on any hill- Like TXREfugee says below, the minority have always been the only ones to take the necessary stands for this country- winning the little battles everyone says shouldn’t be waged- as well as the larger ones-


56 posted on 01/03/2016 3:24:24 PM PST by Bob434
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To: Southack

“It’s the claim of a sudden “crisis” that reeks of Reichstag Fire.”

OM-Gosh, not a Reichstag fire! If that was to happen the government could rule by dicta! They could simply deem highly unpopular legislation to be passed without debate, set departments and bureaus over the people to make up their own regulations without legislative review or judicial redress and issue executive fiats to control the rights, liberties and freedoms of the people! Please, not a Reichstag Fire!


57 posted on 01/03/2016 3:24:32 PM PST by Justa
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To: Paladin2
"BLM" now has a doubly poor connotation

"...#BundyLivesMatter" Got it!

58 posted on 01/03/2016 3:25:42 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Noumenon

[[That’s my sense of things as well. But the full account of how the Feds went after the ranchers in that area is appalling.]]

Yup- and the abuse didn’t stop with the confrontation they had awhile ago- the government had their nose bent and they didn’t like it one bit- and targeted them for further harassment very likely-

Like Hildy said, things have been brewing for awhile- and the last standoff was the match that almost lit bonfire=-


59 posted on 01/03/2016 3:27:09 PM PST by Bob434
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To: Mariner

The fact is that most of the western states have a lot of fed land within their borders. It was typically a prerequisite to acknowledge federal jurisdiction/ ownership prior to being recognized as a state.

Don’t see the feds giving up land to states.


60 posted on 01/03/2016 3:27:26 PM PST by conservaKate (Will this mess of a Republican primary ever end?)
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