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The Constitution Strikes Back
1 posted on 01/06/2016 2:24:04 PM PST by Isara
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To: Isara

Trump never said Cruz was not eligible. Time for the lying articles to stick to the truth.


2 posted on 01/06/2016 2:25:06 PM PST by dforest
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To: Isara
U.S. solicitors general, Neal Katyal

I wouldn't take advice from this guy - Obama's solicitor general.

3 posted on 01/06/2016 2:25:35 PM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Isara

YaButt, Cruz’ paris were not commies like Hussein’s....


5 posted on 01/06/2016 2:26:35 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Isara

Constitutional scholars also said Obamacare was Unconstitutional


8 posted on 01/06/2016 2:29:08 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: Isara

Good that settles it, seen he is eligible - Cruz for VP!


12 posted on 01/06/2016 2:30:27 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: Isara

War of the wills, who will win?

The will of the people or the will of a Superpac funded candidate?


14 posted on 01/06/2016 2:30:50 PM PST by Daniel Ramsey (Trump to win! He wins, we win, the nation wins!)
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To: Isara

You think Her Thighness will let this issue alone?
If it’s Our Man Ted vs The Demon, she will make this a very big deal indeed.
As there is NO controlling legal definition, get it adjudicated now. Get the Supremes to make a decision.
One way or the other.
“Citizen” ain’t the same as “Natural Born Citizen”.


18 posted on 01/06/2016 2:32:49 PM PST by Macoozie ("Estoy votando por Ted 2016!" bumper stickers available)
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To: Isara

Er...Trump didn’t say he wasn’t.


19 posted on 01/06/2016 2:33:38 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy (What good is a constitution if you don't have a country to go with it?)
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To: Isara

Trump can turn this into a win-win

Just go “OK, then... Since all the media pronounced him eligible, I’ll make him my VP.”

Then he does not have to prove it afterwords himself... they already did it for him!!!


20 posted on 01/06/2016 2:34:15 PM PST by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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To: Isara

My worry/question is about Cruz’s mother.

Did she give up her USA citizenship while she was living in Canada, and become a Canadian citizen for tax reasons? If so, how does that affect Ted’s citizenship?

How did Ted’s parents come back into the USA if she assumed Canadian citizenship (if) - and, how did Ted’s dad get a green card to enter?

I have to assume she didn’t give up her USA citizenship, but I worry.


22 posted on 01/06/2016 2:34:19 PM PST by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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The Harvard Law Review Article by Neal Katyal and Paul Clement Taken Apart Piece by Piece and Utterly Destroyed
29 posted on 01/06/2016 2:35:39 PM PST by Godebert
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To: Isara

What cases decided by SCOTUS do these authorities cite in the their “consensus?”


32 posted on 01/06/2016 2:37:09 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Isara

Note the reference to Natural Law in the first sentence of our Declaration of Independence.

It is crystal clear that the Founding Fathers used the Natural Law definition of 'natural born Citizen' when they wrote Article II. By invoking "The Laws of Nature and Nature's God" the 56 signers of the Declaration incorporated a legal standard of freedom into the forms of government that would follow.

President John Quincy Adams, writing in 1839, looked back at the founding period and recognized the true meaning of the Declaration's reliance on the "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God." He observed that the American people's "charter was the Declaration of Independence. Their rights, the natural rights of mankind. Their government, such as should be instituted by the people, under the solemn mutual pledges of perpetual union, founded on the self-evident truth's proclaimed in the Declaration."

The Constitution, Vattel, and “Natural Born Citizen”: What Our Framers Knew

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

The Harvard Law Review Article Taken Apart Piece by Piece and Utterly Destroyed

Citizenship Terms Used in the U.S. Constitution - The 5 Terms Defined & Some Legal Reference to Same

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.

A Dissertation on Manner of Acquiring Character & Privileges of Citizen of U.S.-by David Ramsay-1789

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

Publications of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts, Volume 20 - Use of The Law of Nations by the Constitutional Convention

34 posted on 01/06/2016 2:37:47 PM PST by Godebert
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I thought the controversy would wait until Cruz was nominated. I was wrong. Even if it’s settled, the media/democrat complex will never let it drop. It’ll be 24/7 on the cable news until the election.
Meanwhile, nothing in the media about 0bama saying he was born in kenya in one of his books.


35 posted on 01/06/2016 2:37:52 PM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: Isara

a half truth is ten times worst than an outright lie. You and BECK are trampling over one of the BIG TEN.


36 posted on 01/06/2016 2:38:01 PM PST by maddogtiger
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To: Isara
Trump is a loser.

He didn't say HE was questioning Cruz's eligibility, he said others were raising the question.

By making that point ("A lot of people are bringing that up."), the loser (Trump) is revealing his hysteria.

Losers like Trump HATE to lose. They get hysterical. That's what we are seeing here.

Again, Trump is a loser. He is not qualified to be President.

Loser.

42 posted on 01/06/2016 2:43:09 PM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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There appears to be some issues:

To: Behind the Blue Wall
The “original” SR511 definition of NBC ( http://www.leahy.senate.gov/press/the-introduction-of-a-senate-resolution ) signed by Obama, Clinton, Leahy, Coburn, Webb and McCaskill and verified by Chertoff, states very plainly that NBC means born in the USA of two US citizen parents. The SR511 that Congress vetted McCain with ( https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/sres511/text ) is a watered down version but still states TWO US CITIZENS.

There is a reason Leahy has kept the original version on his website all these years.

104 posted on 1/6/2016 11:59:46 AM by bgill (CDC site, “We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola”)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3380307/posts?page=104#104


To: Wissa
“Don’t you think it would be better for Cruz to put all the documentation and facts out there”

Don’t hold your breath, looks like Cruz is going the Obama route

“At present, all FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) requests filed in search of any U.S. citizenship documents to confirm the true official U.S. citizenship status of Ted Cruz have been denied access. All citizenship records for Ted Cruz are sealed unless and until Ted Cruz agrees to allow any such records to be released by either U.S. or Canadian agencies.”
http://www.newswithviews.com/JBWilliams/williams317.htm

At the tail end of the article 6 paragraphs before the end.

115 posted on 1/6/2016 12:26:27 PM by jpsb
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3380307/posts?page=115#115


48 posted on 01/06/2016 2:46:56 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Isara

Used to be that “natural born citizen” meant and was judicially interpreted to mean anyone born not only in the United States but also born to parents born in the United States.


52 posted on 01/06/2016 2:49:54 PM PST by Ahithophel (Communication is an art form susceptible to sudden technical failures)
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To: Isara

I think Cruz would make a fine prez, but experts agree that man made climate change is real. They agree that obama isn’t a fraud. SCOTUS are supposed to be constitutional experts, yet we have obamacare, and the list goes on and on.

That said, I think the experts are right about Cruz, but I am certain not all agree, as with anything needing an opinion.


54 posted on 01/06/2016 2:51:34 PM PST by paintriot
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Don’t sweat it, once the Dems file a lawsuit, the courts will figure it out.


61 posted on 01/06/2016 3:10:22 PM PST by patq
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