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Ted Cruz Campaign Releases Mother's Birth Certificate to Satisfy Unsatisfiable Crazy People
Slate ^ | January 8, 2016 | Jim Newell

Posted on 01/09/2016 12:13:42 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Unless he himself becomes president, Donald Trump should serve in the next administration as Special Envoy for Getting People to Dig Up Birth Certificates for Public Consumption, because he's hella good at it. His speculation about Obama's birthplace prompted the President to release his long-form birth certificate in 2011. And now, after only a few days of muttering about Cruz's eligibility to become president, he's prompted Cruz to release… his mother's?

Wait, it makes sense.

As best we can tell there are two main strands of Cruz birtherism. One is that the Supreme Court has never directly ruled on the meaning of the Constitution's "natural born citizen" requirement. Even though it is understood by experts to mean "U.S. citizen at birth," as Cruz was, some opportunistic critics, such as Trump, have been warning about the phrase's not-totally-determined meaning and how that could open the door to distracting legal cases if Cruz becomes the nominee.

The other is that maybe Cruz was not a U.S. citizen at birth, because his mother did not meet the requirements for transmitting citizenship to her child. As we wrote yesterday, "Those born abroad between 1952 and 1986 earned U.S. citizenship at birth if their parents were married and one parent was a U.S. citizen who spent 10 years in the United States with five of those coming after age 14. Cruz's parents were married, and his mother meets the citizenship requirements." This gives Cruz birthers another person's life to inspect: that of Eleanor Cruz, the senator's mother. Democratic congressman Alan Grayson (yes, there are Democratic Cruz birthers) has said that the eligibility suit he's supposedly prepping against Cruz would focus on Eleanor. As U.S. News reported this week:.....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: citizenship; cruz; cruz4attorneygeneral; cruzmother; cruznbc; gopprimary; naturalborncitizen; trump
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To: Finny

Just like the USA nuking Japan during WWII because we wanted to help them.


161 posted on 01/09/2016 6:31:09 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (Trump is the pawn and creation of the Media and Political Establishment)
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To: Yosemitest
So you want people to accept David R. During, a concealed firearm instructor and tax lawyer specializing in business and estate planning, as a professional expert on the Constitution and the Founding Fathers ? I think NOT ! ! !

He is one of many sources I have provided and infinitely preferable to Ilya Shapiro, a Russian Ashkenazi Jew born in the Soviet Union and recently immigrated to the United States from Canada.

162 posted on 01/09/2016 6:32:21 AM PST by Godebert
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I am truly amazed at how many Cruz-hating birther idiots there are on FR.


163 posted on 01/09/2016 6:32:36 AM PST by Rufii
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To: Godebert
Mario Apuzzo, New Jersey attorney who normally practices in the areas of Car Accidents, Criminal Law, DUI / DWI, Injury Law, Municipal Law, is not what I would even remotely consider an expert on the Constitution, or the Founding Fathers.
I guess he could't make a living chasing ambulances, so he's now on the talk and blog circuit.
164 posted on 01/09/2016 6:38:10 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Cboldt

Common law is secondary and subordinate to statutory law.


165 posted on 01/09/2016 6:38:58 AM PST by Oklahoma
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To: RC one

It’s not questionable - it’s the law.

“A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child’s birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be the genetic or the gestational parent and the legal parent of the child under local law at the time and place of the child’s birth to transmit U.S. citizenship.”


166 posted on 01/09/2016 6:39:12 AM PST by randita
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To: John Valentine

Why is dual citizenship a problem for any candidate so long as they qualify as a natural born citizen of United States?

There is nothing in the constitutional requirement to be president that the candidate be only an American. Citizenship is a national perogative and only matters to the nation that bestows/defines it. This is a non-issue for the purposes of his qualification to be President of the United States. You as the voter may question the candidate’s allegiance to our nation and not voting for him is your perogative, but he is qualified to run for that office in the eyes of our nation’s laws.


167 posted on 01/09/2016 6:39:59 AM PST by xander
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To: Yosemitest

He’s pretty much destroyed the after-birther arguments attempting to subvert our Constitution.


168 posted on 01/09/2016 6:40:03 AM PST by Godebert
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To: Yosemitest
As you know, your rebuttal to Apuzzo's contentions is nothing more than ad hominem.
169 posted on 01/09/2016 6:42:02 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Godebert
Your LIBERAL ROOTS are showing.
You should go back to the DemocRAT Underground where your bogus 'experts' won't be researched or questioned.
170 posted on 01/09/2016 6:42:20 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

See reply #169, which has you pegged.


171 posted on 01/09/2016 6:46:57 AM PST by Godebert
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To: randita
That is statutory law. Only Natural Law can define a natural born Citizen.
172 posted on 01/09/2016 6:49:49 AM PST by Godebert
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To: jonrick46
Cruz's father has absolutely no bearing on the matter, nor did where Cruz was born. Cruz's birthright citizenship came through his mother.

The Naturalization Act of 1790 has since been amended many times by Congress. Transport yourself to the 21st Century. This is the current law:

"A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be the genetic or the gestational parent and the legal parent of the child under local law at the time and place of the child's birth to transmit U.S. citizenship.

173 posted on 01/09/2016 6:52:47 AM PST by randita
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To: Godebert
If you belief that, you need to speak to a professional Psychiatrist.
Take a close read of the members of the 1st United States Congress, 21-26 Senators and 59-65 Representatives and you'll find that they are the ones who wrote the Constitution, and well as the The Naturalization Act of 1790.

Let's read it , too !

174 posted on 01/09/2016 6:52:56 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Godebert
I don't need to rebut a DemocRAT Operative.
Others have shot his bogus claims all to pieces.

175 posted on 01/09/2016 6:55:08 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
You can't create a natural born Citizen with a Naturalization Act. A contradiction in terms.
176 posted on 01/09/2016 6:59:01 AM PST by Godebert
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To: Popman

The constitution stipulates “natural born citizen” and the meaning of natural born citizen has long been understood to be different from citizen. Ted Cruz is a citizen of the Unites States.


177 posted on 01/09/2016 7:01:41 AM PST by RC one (race baiting and demagoguery-if you're a Democrat it's what you do.)
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To: American Constitutionalist
Just out of curiosity what was that law when Donald Trump was born ?

Since Trump was born in the U.S. then the law hasn't changed. He's a natural-born citizen.

178 posted on 01/09/2016 7:05:36 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Yosemitest
Watch: Mark Levin declares Ted Cruz a "Naturalized Citizen"

Mark Levin Attacks Birthers: Admits He Hasn't Studied Issue; Declares Canadian-Born Cruz Eligible

179 posted on 01/09/2016 7:07:04 AM PST by Godebert
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To: Godebert
What is the root word of "Naturalization" ? Not only could they, BUT ... THE FOUNDING FATHERS DID DEFINE IT !
180 posted on 01/09/2016 7:09:41 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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