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British MP claims rocks don't kill
Arutz Sheva ^ | 12/1/16 | Nitzan Keidar

Posted on 01/11/2016 11:38:51 PM PST by Eleutheria5

The Israeli embassy in Britain sent a letter of complaint to a Muslim Labour MP after she claimed that no Israeli children had been killed by rock-throwing Palestinians, The Jewish Chronicle reported Monday.

During a parliamentary debate on child detainees and prisoners in Palestinian Authority-controlled territories, the MP Naz Shah claimed it was “absolutely unacceptable” to arrest children.

She then claimed the Israeli government had provided no evidence of Israeli children being killed or injured by Palestinian minors protesting in Judea and Samaria.

“The fact is that the disproportionality of someone throwing a stone or a rock and being detained for it is not acceptable,” The Jewish Chronicle quoted Shah as having said at the debate last Wednesday.

Her Labour colleague Ian Austin responded by pointing out the case of four-year-old Adelle Biton, who was critically wounded in a rock attack on her family’s car in 2013 and died two years later.

But Shah insisted, “The Israeli government have not provided any evidence of any child causing a death, or contributing to a death, using a stone. There is no evidence of that.”

Eitan Na’eh, chargé d'affaires at the embassy in London, wrote to Shah on Monday to express his “profound concern” about her claims, according to The Jewish Chronicle.

In his later, Na’eh wrote that Palestinian minors had been involved in “deadly crimes” against Israeli civilians, including through the throwing of rocks.

“I must impress upon you the fact that rock-throwing is a violent crime that can, and has, led to death on multiple occasions,” he wrote, citing the case of Adelle Biton before presenting several other examples.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: adellebiton; antisemitism; disproportionate; embassy; fatah; gaza; hamas; hizbollah; ianaustin; iran; israel; kill; labour; lebanon; mpnazshah; nazshah; palestinians; rocks; rop; unitedkingdom; waronterror
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Now just a cotton pickin' minit here. Let's be fair. Ms. Shah didn't say that rocks don't kill minors, just that there was no proof that a minor throwing a rock had ever killed an infant, maybe because the throwing hadn't been arrested on the spot, so there was no way of knowing if he was a minor or not. If you arrest minors for throwing rocks, then it will be known who thre what rock and if it had killed an infant, and then where will we all be? Better to not arrest minors, and then nobody will know, and everything will be fine for everyone, except the hypothetical infant. As for Adelle Biton, she died after being comatose for two years. Obviously, the rock that had put her into the coma didn't kill her. She died of laziness. *

* All just-a-cotton-pickin'-minit posts are inherently sarcatic in nature, so no sarc tab is necessary, the sarcasm being too blatant to require one. But periodically, in way over-the-top statements such as the above, this caveat will be inserted, in order to avoid any misunderstandings with special children who do not otherwise realize that this is sarcasm.

1 posted on 01/11/2016 11:38:52 PM PST by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

A moslem that never heard of a stoning? Another lie from their lips.


2 posted on 01/11/2016 11:42:46 PM PST by r_barton
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To: Eleutheria5

supposed to be “maybe because the thrower”


3 posted on 01/11/2016 11:42:54 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Get a pile of rocks and a dozen six year olds.
Take Naz Shah out in the street and see how much she can take.

Put it on Pay per View.


4 posted on 01/11/2016 11:54:03 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: Eleutheria5

An ass, pure and simple :-/


5 posted on 01/11/2016 11:56:16 PM PST by Bobalu (Even if I could take off, I could never get past the tractor beam!)
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To: Eleutheria5

A very promising theory. Perhaps it should be tested ...on Ms shah...


6 posted on 01/11/2016 11:58:40 PM PST by faithhopecharity (Diff tween D's and R's is that the thatD's allow the poor to be corrupt, too. (O. Levant)
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To: TigersEye
Rocks don't kill people. Muslims kill people.
7 posted on 01/12/2016 12:01:49 AM PST by fhayek
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To: fhayek

My bad!


8 posted on 01/12/2016 12:11:37 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: Eleutheria5
Stoning - a how to video
9 posted on 01/12/2016 12:13:19 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Rocks that kill were usually abused by their masters.


10 posted on 01/12/2016 12:13:43 AM PST by clearcarbon
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To: Eleutheria5

Ok asshole, stand in front of me while i throw a rock squarely at your noggin..and sign a waiver that if you die, I will not be charged for any criminal act.


11 posted on 01/12/2016 12:15:23 AM PST by max americana (fired every liberal in our company at every election cycle..and laughed at their faces (true story))
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To: Eleutheria5

Proportional response is a game for idiots.


12 posted on 01/12/2016 12:17:51 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: max americana

But even then, she isn’t an infant, so they’d have to test it out on inants.


13 posted on 01/12/2016 12:34:19 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: TigersEye

If only her middle initial were I we could legitimately call her a nazi, but since she has no middle initial, that might be disproportionate. So I will not call her a nazi. Oh, what the heck. She’s a Nazi.


14 posted on 01/12/2016 12:37:19 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

If someone is trying to kill you then killing them IS a proportional response.

If they’re using rocks to try and kill you that makes no difference.

In any case: a lot of these ‘youths’ use slings. Slings have been a deadly missile weapon for thousands of years.


15 posted on 01/12/2016 12:58:36 AM PST by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: fhayek

When rocks are outlawed, only outlaws will have rocks.


16 posted on 01/12/2016 1:02:59 AM PST by cowboyway (We're not going to be able to vote our way out of this mess.)
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To: agere_contra

Get off your high horse. David used a sling to kill Goliath, but he did not kill any infants with it.


17 posted on 01/12/2016 1:08:36 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: r_barton
When the British were patrolling Mandate Palestine (1917-1948) they had a double-standard, trying to “put down” the Arab (not called “Paleostinian” then) revolt in 1935, 36, 37, 38 and 39. They used brutal tactics to stop the Arabs (and Jews).

Arabs hurled rocks and projectiles (and live fire) at British forces they responded by tying Arabs to their jeep engine covers and entering villages looking for perps.

They also dynamited (not “controlled” blasts) houses of suspects and used a technique called, “the neighbor technique” where they sent a local Arab to the front door of a booby trapped house or where a fugitive refused to come out. The neighbor was a decoy and if anything should happen, the neighbor got killed, not British forces...

The Israelis later on used some of these tactics too but where condemned for them.

Today, the Brits can offer their lofty platitudes about human rights to the Jews of Israel while cowering under the fear of Islamic violence and rape at every turn in today's England.

Brits, watch your back, not Israel's defense against Arab insanity that you too will face in the future.

18 posted on 01/12/2016 1:08:46 AM PST by Netz
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To: Eleutheria5

I have always considered rock throwing to be at least assault with a deadly weapon or attempted murder. As far as I’m concerned, permitting that form or attack or any other physical attack is unacceptable. I’m okay with arresting or shooting those who engage in assault or attempted murder, as long as the assault is stopped before innocent people are hurt. We all know the story of stones in the hands of a “youth” too young for war:

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1 Samuel 17

12 Now David was the son of that Ephrathite of Bethlehem Judah, whose name was Jesse, and who had eight sons . . .

14 David was the youngest. And the three oldest followed Saul . . .

17 Then Jesse said to his son David, “Take now for your brothers an ephah of this dried grain and these ten loaves, and run to your brothers at the camp.

18 And carry these ten cheeses to the captain of their thousand, and see how your brothers fare, and bring back news of them.” . . .

22 And David left his supplies in the hand of the supply keeper, ran to the army, and came and greeted his brothers.

23 Then as he talked with them, there was the champion, the Philistine of Gath, Goliath by name, coming up from the armies of the Philistines; and he spoke according to the same words. So David heard them . . .

32 Then David said to Saul, “Let no man’s heart fail because of him; your servant will go and fight with this Philistine.”

33 And Saul said to David, “You are not able to go against this Philistine to fight with him; for you are a youth, and he a man of war from his youth.” . . .

36 “Your servant has killed both lion and bear; and this uncircumcised Philistine will be like one of them, seeing he has defied the armies of the living God.”

37 Moreover David said, “The Lord, who delivered me from the paw of the lion and from the paw of the bear, He will deliver me from the hand of this Philistine.” And Saul said to David, “Go, and the Lord be with you!” . . .

40 Then he took his staff in his hand; and he chose for himself five smooth stones from the brook, and put them in a shepherd’s bag, in a pouch which he had, and his sling was in his hand. And he drew near to the Philistine . . .

42 And when the Philistine looked about and saw David, he disdained him; for he was only a youth, ruddy and good-looking . . .

49 Then David put his hand in his bag and took out a stone; and he slung it and struck the Philistine in his forehead, so that the stone sank into his forehead, and he fell on his face to the earth.

50 So David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone, and struck the Philistine and killed him.

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Or, as we used to say back when we had freedom of speech, “sticks and stones may break my bones.” Stones are deadly weapons. Only those who hate Jews would think it is okay to throw rocks at Jews. Unfortunately, most liberal politicians today are full of hate for the Jews and for many other groups.


19 posted on 01/12/2016 1:20:56 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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See. A Pali youth who throws a stone at an infant is just like David, only they’re trying to kill an infant instead of a giant. So it would be disproportionate to arrest the youth, just as it was disproportionate for Saul to repeatedly attempt to kill David. Only he played a harp and Saul was overcome by an evil spirit, while most Pali youths don’t even know how to play a Jews’ harp.


20 posted on 01/12/2016 1:51:25 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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