Posted on 01/15/2016 12:04:41 PM PST by TBP
How many times over how many days do you post the same, debunked bull_hit?
except it’s true, he was explicitly against deportations in 2013, months after the gang of 8 bill died, and his office confirmed the story in March 2015, and his website still mentions absolutely nothing of general deportations. It’s exact same policy as W. Bush’s. W. Bush was also ‘anti amnesty and anti deportation’ in his agenda. In fact, Cruz wrote a lot of his policies on immigration.
This is an example of lying to, or at the very least seriously misleading people through headlines.
As long as they are getting at the end of the line I don’t see how it’s amnesty.
Of course, I don’t trust our government to do anything right concerning immigration.
Good grief, do any of you trumpeters actually read the articles?!?
Touchback??? Not just no, but HELL NO!!!
PING!
“Most will get back.”
How?
If they didn’t have the means or will to learn English or the constitution before, why will they try now?
I know. Now, are you going to argue the point?
Not at all. Trump proposes an idea that is essentially identical to the touchback provision of the 2007 bill, which was amnesty.
No. It’s misleading on three counts.
First, the ‘Who knew’ part, which implies that Trump has somehow been misleading people about what his position is. He’s said from day one that the good ones would be allowed to come back in, but would have to go through a vetting process to do so.
Second, Trump’s position is different from the 2007 proposal in that illegals are not guaranteed to be able to come back in simply because they go home and reapply. Their reentry is not automatic. They will have to undergo the vetting that they would have had to undergo if they had entered legally in the first place, which means some of them will not be allowed back in.
Third, describing Trump’s position as amnesty. While technically it might be true, and I emphasize the word might, it is not an across the board, automatic granting of legalization that most people imagine when they hear the term. If not lying, it’s at least misleading. It’s also misleading in that Trump’s policy is tougher than all the other candidates, including Cruz, unless you count his most recent iteration, which was done as a reaction to Trump, and which is disingenuous in my opinion.
Well, he has been, either now or within the past few months.
illegals are not guaranteed to be able to come back in simply because they go home and reapply. Their reentry is not automatic.
Which was also the case in 2007, but as in that bill, most will get back in.
describing Trump’s position as amnesty.
Taht is what it is.
Thanks for the ad hominem fallacy and proof that Trumpers have lost their mental faculties.
Trump mentions the prisoners held by Iran at every event, the only candidate to do so. He has recently been saying that the Iranians now want to negotiate a separate swap deal to get back people from us. He was prescient as we now know from the Iranian News Agency that Iran will get back 7 prisoners from us. You can bet they are not innocent Iranians, unlike the Americans held by Iran who have been used as pawns.
Trump has raised the profile of these prisoners forcing Obama to make another bad deal. We are all getting ready for a Rose Garden photo op with Obama touting the deal as a great victory and showing how we can work with Iran--just like the capture and humiliation of our sailors. Most of the public will be fooled.
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