Posted on 01/21/2016 6:10:55 AM PST by teg_76
"Congress must protect our borders first. Amnesty should be done only if the border is secure and illegal immigration has stopped."
I recall earlier on in this campaign about an extremely AVID Scott Walker supporter trying every way in the world to divert us away from a 2012-2013 interview Walker did where he countenanced a form of amnesty and eventual path to citizenship.
We were constantly told that “this was the past” and “his position is now....” only then in the waning days of Walker’s campaign to hear “No comment on it until we get a wall and then I’ll tell you.”
Run along, nothing to see here.....
Trump says what he thinks people want to hear. He’s also smart enough to tap into the wave of discontent in this country, but what a person says versus what they will do once they are elected are not always the same. Many seem to forget that.
There’s just something about Trump that doean’t ring true.
Trump will do or say WHATEVER he has to do or say to get elected.
So say his most ardent supporters here, and they admire him for that quality.
Me? I’m a conservative, not a sports fan, so I support the principled conservative Ted Cruz.
I wonder what will happen when President Trump does not keep his campaign promises? The people will go nuts.
Perhaps I don’t disagree with your sentiment. But that perceived distrust isn’t what I was talking about really. It was the duplicity that I’ve seen here in arguments where rational arguments from one side or the other have been perverted and twisted to support whatever you want to call this last battle between Cruz and Trump.
My position has always been for Cruz and that I didn’t mind Trump as long as Cruz had no problem with it. Despite whatever Trump’s failings are, he gave us two things: “illegal” reintroduced to the national debate, and “Muslims” as a very likely future problem we need to face. The added benefit is that he’s pretty much trashed any and all hope of Jeb Bush honestly getting the nomination (which has always been one of my primary goals). To these ends, I thank him for that.
We’ll have to see, but I won’t participate in bashing either Trump or Cruz to see one win over the other. I’ll sit back and let those two handle it themselves and then vote for whoever of the two survives and makes it to the general election. I will only vote for one or the other, or both. No Jeb, No Rubio, No Kasich, Carson or Christie, period.
They won’t care, they elected a tv star. That is all that counts.
Only when the first 2 qualifications are satisfied should we deal with amnesty.
Cruz supported amnesty as recently as 2015.
That Time Donald Trump Had A Meeting With DREAMers And Said “You Convinced Me†On Immigration
Trump to Dreamers:“You Convinced Me†On Immigration
“I wonder what will happen when President Trump does not keep his campaign promises? The people will go nuts.”
So what. His job will be done. No need to be reelected.
With all the brand new democrats he plans on bringing in with his touchback amnesty the democrats will never lose another election.
Trump supporting amnesty 3 months ago:
http://www.newsweek.com/who-knew-trump-favors-amnesty-undocumented-immigrants-395512
Of course he did Gruber.
That is just as true as your statement “If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor”, right Gruber?
That was wrong link....but here’s one from July:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2x7b68
There is another video where he was supporting amnesty just before he started hitting his opponents over it when his campaign calculated it was a weakness that could be used against them.
Gruber, read and weep:
Cruz on amnesty, transcript from video:
“And I’d like to make a final point to those advocacy groups that are very engaged in this issue and rightly concerned about addressing our immigration system, and in particular about addressing the situation for the 11 million who are currently in the shadows. If this amendment is adopted to the current bill the effect would be that those 11 million under this current bill would still be eligible for RPI status.** They would still be eligible for legal status and indeed under the terms of the bill they would be eligible for LPR status as well, so that they are out of the shadows, which the proponents of this bill repeatedly point to as their principle objective — to provide a legal status for those who are here illlegally to be out of the shadows. This amendment would allow that to happen...
And a second point to those advocacy groups that are so passionately engaged. In my view if this committee rejects this amendment, and I think everyone here views it as quite likely this committee will choose to reject this amendment, in my view that decision will make it much, much more likely that this entire bill will fail in the House of Representatives I don’t want immigration reform to fail. I want immigration reform to pass, and so I would urge people of good faith on both sides of the aisle, if the objective is to pass common sense immigration reform that secures the borders, that improves legal immigration, and that allows those who are here illegally to come in out of the shadows, then we should look for areas of bipartisan agreement and compromise to come together and this amendment — I believe if this amendment were to pass the chances of this bill passing into law would increase dramatically, and so I would urge the committee to give it full consideration and to adopt the amendment.”
I am always interested in Cruz-bots explaining what Cruz says is not really what he means.
When are folks going to learn whatever Trump said 20 years ago, 10 years ago, 3 years ago, 5 days ago, or yesterday does not matter he is going to make America Great Again he said it therefore let be written let it be done.
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