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Rapid Erosion Supports Creation Model
Institute for Creation Research ^ | Jan. 25, 2016 | Frank Sherwin

Posted on 01/25/2016 9:35:02 AM PST by fishtank

Rapid Erosion Supports Creation Model

by Frank Sherwin, M.A. | Jan. 25, 2016

Recently in Dorset, England, bad weather washed a massive section of a cliff into the sea revealing scores of ammonite fossils.1,2 Creation scientists are interested in this cliff fall because substantial erosion was accomplished in literally seconds. It didn't take hundreds of thousands to millions of years of slow and gradual erosion.

The cliff fall at Dorset isn't the only recent example of rapid and significant erosion. Uniformitarian geologists claim the famous White Cliffs of Dover, composed of calcium carbonate, were formed in the Cretaceous Period between 65 and 140 million years ago. But there is evidence of significant fracturing every decade or so causing authorities to urge visitors to stay far away from the cliff edge lest they topple into the ocean when the rocks give way. In 2001, a huge chunk fell into the English Channel followed by another large section in 2012. Uniformitarian geologists estimate 0.39 inches of cliff erosion per year. But we're seeing a lot—far too much—catastrophic erosion of these cliffs over a short time. At this catastrophic erosion rate, the White Cliffs of Dover would disappear in much less than a million years.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: dorset; erosion; yosemite
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To: sparklite2

I believe in the QEC (Quick Earth Creationism).

God is all-mighty, more than anyone can even imagine.
He created everything, including our memories, just seconds ago, although most people wrongly believe the earth is older than that.


61 posted on 01/25/2016 1:35:03 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: tacticalogic
Can you submit with any degree of certainty that the effects of a rapid erosion event precipitated by another catastrophic event would be the same regardless of whether it was preceded by hundreds or thousands of years of slow erosion and thermal cycles or not?

I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. Can you rephrase?

62 posted on 01/25/2016 1:35:32 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Atheism is like fish that disbelieve in water.

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Cute, but an entirely inapt comparison.


63 posted on 01/25/2016 1:37:51 PM PST by dmz
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To: tacticalogic

Not sure if this is what you were asking, but consider pebble or boulder shape. Obviously, it would take a long period of erosion to ‘round’ a rock. Most rocks when they first are dislodged from their source rock/outcrop are jagged and angular.


64 posted on 01/25/2016 1:45:41 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: ETL

...rocks are usually rounded by water (in riverbeds, or on coastlines), but can also be rounded by wind or transportation by glacier.


65 posted on 01/25/2016 1:50:54 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: central_va

We do know “exactly how they work”? That’s news to me, and most likely to everyone with half a brain or more.


66 posted on 01/25/2016 2:02:12 PM PST by Oceander
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To: VanShuyten
That is called "Last Thursdayism."
Whether it is true has been hotly
debated ever since last Thursday,
when everything was created.

67 posted on 01/25/2016 2:29:29 PM PST by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: ETL
I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. Can you rephrase?

The article posits that cataclysmic events within a few thousand years can account for the amount of erosion we see today. They're basing they data on observed events and attributing all of the effect to that cataclysmic event. I'd submit that the effect is the cumulative result of that event, plus all of the slow erosion and thermal cycles that preceded it, and their premise is flawed.

68 posted on 01/25/2016 2:35:10 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: sparklite2

Thanks. Glad to know there’s a “real” name for the concept.


69 posted on 01/25/2016 3:12:41 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: fishtank

Dr. Russell Humphreys likes to use the jargon of time dilation to give viewers and listeners the impression he knows what he is talking about, and then he misuses that jargon in ways which demonstrate he fails to understand that jargon in the most fundamental ways. According to his claims about time dilation the passage of time on the Earth was necessarily much slower than at the most distantly viewed galaxies in order for the Creation of Earth to have only been some few thousands of years ago. Unfortunately for his attempt to take a conclusion and interpret the physical facts to reach that foregone conclusion, the distant galaxies would have to appear to us as very aged galaxies some tens of billions of years old for his Conjecture to work, whereas we are observing and viewing the exact opposite, with the most distant galaxies being very much slower in time due to their very high velocities, making those galaxies aged only millions of years instead of the billions of years that have passed in this region of the Universe. In other words, despite his alleged scientific credentials, he is speaking scientific nonsense falsified by observations of the realities.


70 posted on 01/25/2016 3:28:47 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Describe the “physics break” necessary to establish a young age for the Earth. What laws or physical constants must change for this break?

I don’t think you have a clue what you are talking about...


71 posted on 01/25/2016 3:29:54 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: Boogieman
That’s just the way the jews reckoned days, the day began at sundown and ended at sundown the next day. The word translated as “morning” from the Hebrew doesn’t just mean morning, but can mean the entire “next day” following the evening.

Woah there, pal! Now you are talking about study and scholarship; stuff that takes time, effort and understanding. Don't you know that everything worth knowing comes from a plain reading of the text of the Bible (in English, just like Jesus wrote it!).

/sarcasm (if needed)

72 posted on 01/25/2016 3:36:06 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: Oceander

Yes, we do know how single cell creatures work and with all of that knowledge science cannot reproduce one in the lab. Nor will man ever be able to do that. Yet you want me to believe that pool of “primordial” soup in a small pond was struck by Lightning and amoeba started darting around magically.


73 posted on 01/25/2016 4:00:30 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

No, we don’t.


74 posted on 01/25/2016 4:01:19 PM PST by Oceander
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To: Oceander
Yet you want me to believe that pool of "primordial" soup in a small pond was struck by lightning and amoeba started darting around magically.

Isn't this true?

75 posted on 01/25/2016 4:13:04 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Nope, that isn’t true either. I never said anything about lighting, or primordial soup or amoebae. You can check every single word of my prior posts and you’ll see I never said any of that. You did.


76 posted on 01/25/2016 4:17:23 PM PST by Oceander
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To: fishtank

ICR is not a credible source


77 posted on 01/25/2016 4:17:36 PM PST by Thibodeaux (leading from behind is following)
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To: central_va

“Yes, we do know how single cell creatures work and with all of that knowledge science cannot reproduce one in the lab.”

That statement is false, because scientists have created a new form of Life by taking non-living chemicals to create a new and never been seen before genome which was placed inside an already living bacterium to reproduce a new form of life.

“Nor will man ever be able to do that.”

There are no principles of biochemistry, chemistry, or physics which would prevent Humans from eventually developing being a means to produce a reproductive organic chemical organism qualifying as a form of life.

“Yet you want me to believe that pool of “primordial” soup in a small pond was struck by Lightning and amoeba started darting around magically.”

That is not how Life originated on the Earth or in interstellar space. Life is an inherent electromagnetic property of molecules and their tendency to aggregate under certain environmental conditions.


78 posted on 01/25/2016 4:22:28 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Oceander

Ok at some point the earth went form no life to having life on it. The primordial soup creating spontaneous life thing is the last version I heard from the evolution gang. Whats your version? I am all ears.


79 posted on 01/25/2016 4:23:42 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: WhiskeyX
Life is an inherent electromagnetic property of molecules and their tendency to aggregate under certain environmental conditions.

Wow that is crock of excrement.

Walk me thru that process. So one billion years ago on a Thursday evening some electromagnetic ray beamed down hit a rock and lichens appeared? LOL.

80 posted on 01/25/2016 4:26:43 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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