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Oregon occupiers: What officials say happened at traffic stop
CNN ^ | 1-28-2016 | Evan Perez

Posted on 01/28/2016 7:42:55 AM PST by azkathy

(CNN)A high-speed getaway attempt and a reach for the waistband are said to have prompted police SWAT team members to open fire on a group of leaders of the Oregon armed occupiers.

A law enforcement official described the dramatic showdown that occurred Tuesday night on a desolate stretch of U.S. 395, some distance away from the federal wildlife refuge where the group took over federal buildings nearly a month ago.

FBI and Oregon State Police at a command center in Burns were monitoring the group when they departed the refuge to attend a town hall meeting with local residents in the town of John Day.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bundy; finicum; oregon; patriots; sedition
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According to this article, "The shooting was captured on camera by the SWAT team. FBI and Oregon police officials are discussing possibly releasing the video, in part to counter claims by supporters that Finicum was gunned down while trying to surrender."

Where is the video?

1 posted on 01/28/2016 7:42:55 AM PST by azkathy
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To: azkathy

In the editing room.


2 posted on 01/28/2016 7:45:21 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s implied, usless explicitly stated as not applying.)
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To: azkathy

Frankly, if the video is held by the FBI, I don’t believe a a damned word of that they say. Just like that tank breaching the BD compound at Waco and depositing a harmless smoke grenade that eventually killed 82 people, 22 of them children, ‘accidentally’.

Show me a goddam video or shut the f@ck up.


3 posted on 01/28/2016 7:45:49 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: georgia girl; LucyT; Travis McGee; Nachum; Jeff Head

Ping


4 posted on 01/28/2016 7:46:19 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: azkathy

He had a clear intention to be shot by the cops. Not sure what could be surprising about the fact that it happened.


5 posted on 01/28/2016 7:47:16 AM PST by babble-on
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To: azkathy

He had a clear intention to be shot by the cops. Not sure what could be surprising about the fact that it happened.


6 posted on 01/28/2016 7:47:16 AM PST by babble-on
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To: azkathy

First its a routine traffic stop then its SWAT.


7 posted on 01/28/2016 7:47:23 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: azkathy

A high-speed getaway attempt and a reach for the waistband
= = =

Tactics recently developed and perfected (and ‘accepted’ by the media) by LE at various locations across the US.


8 posted on 01/28/2016 7:47:35 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s implied, usless explicitly stated as not applying.)
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To: azkathy

The FBI is still yet to suffer retribution for the Lon Horiuchi murder of Vicki Weaver.


9 posted on 01/28/2016 7:48:40 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Scrambler Bob

You can’t edit something like that. The question is whether he was a threat to them.


10 posted on 01/28/2016 7:48:41 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: azkathy

The FBI can stop “considering” releasing the film of the shooting and just release it. Surely it can only help their case.


11 posted on 01/28/2016 7:50:22 AM PST by skeeter
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To: AppyPappy

PP ‘edited’ their tapes.

Just learning from the ‘experts’.

/s, Capital /S


12 posted on 01/28/2016 7:50:27 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s implied, usless explicitly stated as not applying.)
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To: azkathy

hummm, let’s see, so he was reaching for his waistband while attempting a high speed getaway?

yeah i’d like to see that. release the video.


13 posted on 01/28/2016 7:51:05 AM PST by dadfly
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To: babble-on
"He had a clear intention to be shot by the cops. Not sure what could be surprising about the fact it happened."

And....

"He had a clear intention to be shot by the cops. Not sure what could be surprising about the fact that it happened."

Easily the best demonstration of a poster's screen name in a long time.

14 posted on 01/28/2016 7:54:13 AM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: Scrambler Bob

It would be too difficult to turn “on his knees with his hands up” into “charging the police”.


15 posted on 01/28/2016 7:54:29 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: dadfly; Georgia Girl 2

Exactly

The article also states, “But Finicum, with police in hot pursuit, attempted to leave the main road and drove into a snow bank. When he emerged from the vehicle, FBI and state police ordered him to surrender. That’s when, authorities say, Finicum reached down toward his waistband where he had a gun.

The SWAT team opened fire. Finicum was killed. Ryan Bundy suffered a light wound on his arm.”

This lends credibility to the story as told by Victoria Sharp who was in the vehicle. Except that she says LaVoy wasn’t armed, did not reach for a gun and had his hands in the air. She did say he drove into a snowbank.


16 posted on 01/28/2016 7:56:43 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: azkathy

Curious as to why they felt they could leave the refuge and run into town for a town hall meeting without being stopped and detained. Were promises made (and not kept) by law enforcement?


17 posted on 01/28/2016 7:56:50 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: azkathy

The article quotes officials as saying the car speed away “out of sight” where the vehicle left the road due to a roadblock. That sure puts Mark McConnell’s version of the events on shaky ground now doesn’t it.


18 posted on 01/28/2016 8:00:09 AM PST by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: azkathy

thx for the info, kathy.


19 posted on 01/28/2016 8:02:51 AM PST by dadfly
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To: AppyPappy

Yeah.

If we get to see the video.

Equipment failure?
Unreleasable evidence related to the case?
Some other excuse the ‘American People’ will blindly accept?


20 posted on 01/28/2016 8:03:09 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s implied, usless explicitly stated as not applying.)
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