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Don’t Write Off Ted Cruz Because You Don’t Like Him
The Federalist ^ | January 29, 2016 | Georgi Boorman

Posted on 01/29/2016 5:00:11 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: kagnew
....CNN cut in with some clips of Ted Cruz, and I thought he was petulant and as Trump says, "Just Nasty".

Imagine

"CNN clips."

=0

It certainly isn't like the old days 'round here.

41 posted on 01/29/2016 5:40:42 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cboldt

Do you have links to Cruz’s US Birth Certificate?
How about other documents?

If Ted is not eligible, like and dislike matter not


42 posted on 01/29/2016 5:43:26 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: SampleMan

I guess you’d go for a Saudi Prince POTUS over Trump?


43 posted on 01/29/2016 5:44:31 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: Steven Tyler
Birth certificates are (supposed to be, Hawaii breaks this rule) issued by authorities in the location where the birth occurs. Cruz has a BC from Canada. That is enough, along with the law, to settle the qualification question.

-- If Ted is not eligible, like and dislike matter not --

Not everybody is as principled as you are. Many people (correctly) believe that the government has been subverted already, so "playing by the rule of law" is a chump's gambit.

44 posted on 01/29/2016 5:47:28 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Steven Tyler

I might yet vote for Trump, but if I do it will be with the very clear knowledge of who and what he is.

I’ll take the wall if I can get it from him and then cut him off at the knees in a heartbeat without a second thought.

If I vote for Trump it will be to use him, not to offer myself up as a naive and blind supporter.


45 posted on 01/29/2016 5:49:01 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don’t Write Off Ted Cruz Because You Don’t Like Him

I'm not. I love Ted Cruz. I just don't think he can win and I know that Trump will. It's that simple.

46 posted on 01/29/2016 5:52:23 AM PST by pgkdan (Trump 2016 ! And then put Ted Cruz on the USSC!)
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To: C210N

Jus soli.
Happersett v minor


47 posted on 01/29/2016 5:58:18 AM PST by South Dakota (Two US citizen parents not one)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s see: If you do not like female Hillary, you are sexist. If you do not like half-black Obama, you are racist. If you do not like Hispanic Cruz you are ....?


48 posted on 01/29/2016 6:04:01 AM PST by doldrumsforgop
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To: pgkdan

“I just don’t think he can win and I know that Trump will. It’s that simple. “

Wow, just wow. Are you old enough to be around when Reagan was running for President?


49 posted on 01/29/2016 6:05:15 AM PST by doldrumsforgop
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To: Dr. Sivana

“I’m not going to take your word on that one.”

Please don’t take my word on that, and don’t take the word of other people on that either. Read the statutes and the case law of the Supreme Court of the United States.

Ted Cruz was born in Canada in 1970, and the law which authorized Ted Cruz to acquire U.S. citizenship on the basis of his mother being an alleged U.S. citizen was the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952 which said:

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66 Stat. Public Law 414 - June 27, 1952. TITLE III - NATIONALITY AND NATURALIZATION. Chapter 1 - Nationality at Birth and by Collective Naturalization. NATIONALS AND CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES AT BIRTH. Sec. 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth; . . . (7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at lest five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States by such citizen parent may be included in computing the physical presence requirements of this paragraph.
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Note this law naturalizes a child born abroad with a parent who is a U.S. citizen, so such a child and Ted Cruz are naturalized U.S. citizens by the authority of this law.

The U.S. State Department Foreign Affairs Manual acknowledges that immigration and naturalization law and says such a child and Ted Cruz were born abroad and naturalized as U.S. citizens.

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U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 7
Consular Affairs. 7 FAM 1151 INTRODUCTION... b. 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(23); INA 101(a)(23)) defines naturalization as the conferring of nationality of a state upon a person after birth by any means whatsoever. . . For the purposes of this subchapter naturalization includes:... (5) “Automatic” acquisition of U.S. citizenship after birth, a form of naturalization by certain children born abroad to U.S. citizen parents or children adopted abroad by U.S. citizen parents.
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[The Supreme Court of the United States also decided a child born abroad such as Ted Cruz can only “become a citizen by being naturalized.”

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United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 18 S.Ct. 456, 42 L.Ed. said “A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized....”
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50 posted on 01/29/2016 6:05:33 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: C210N

Ted Cruz was born in Canada in 1970, and the law which authorized Ted Cruz to acquire U.S. citizenship on the basis of his mother being an alleged U.S. citizen was the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952 which said:

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66 Stat. Public Law 414 - June 27, 1952. TITLE III - NATIONALITY AND NATURALIZATION. Chapter 1 - Nationality at Birth and by Collective Naturalization. NATIONALS AND CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES AT BIRTH. Sec. 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth; . . . (7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at lest five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States by such citizen parent may be included in computing the physical presence requirements of this paragraph.
[Unquote]

Note this law naturalizes a child born abroad with a parent who is a U.S. citizen, so such a child and Ted Cruz are naturalized U.S. citizens by the authority of this law.

The U.S. State Department Foreign Affairs Manual acknowledges that immigration and naturalization law and says such a child and Ted Cruz were born abroad and naturalized as U.S. citizens.

[Quote]
U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 7
Consular Affairs. 7 FAM 1151 INTRODUCTION... b. 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(23); INA 101(a)(23)) defines naturalization as the conferring of nationality of a state upon a person after birth by any means whatsoever. . . For the purposes of this subchapter naturalization includes:... (5) “Automatic” acquisition of U.S. citizenship after birth, a form of naturalization by certain children born abroad to U.S. citizen parents or children adopted abroad by U.S. citizen parents.
[Unquote]

[The Supreme Court of the United States also decided a child born abroad such as Ted Cruz can only “become a citizen by being naturalized.”

[Quote]
United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 18 S.Ct. 456, 42 L.Ed. said “A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized....”
[Unquote]


51 posted on 01/29/2016 6:10:51 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Principled. Period. It’s not a popularity contest. We’ve tried that the past 7 years and it doesn’t work. Cruz doesn’t have Greek columns behind him or use a YUGE amount of adjectives when he speaks ....SO WHAT!? Can we please get past the superficial nonsense. I’ll vote for Trump if it comes down to that, because the left of the left cannot win.


52 posted on 01/29/2016 6:18:24 AM PST by MomMcGraff (The U.S. Constitution is the law of the land)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Cruz Is Unlikable, But Principled

That'll never do with this electorate.

53 posted on 01/29/2016 6:21:48 AM PST by DungeonMaster (the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.)
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To: Sacajaweau; Cincinatus' Wife
Are you telling me that when I come back, that I can never become an American citizen? That's ridiculous.

Many of us agree, that is ridiculous.

Perhaps the more immediate issue here is:
Whether the U.S. should elect as president someone born in another country to a non-American citizen.

It sounds crazy on its face, and certainly under no theory would the founders have intended such. It is unbelievable that an attorney well-versed in the Constitution would propose such a thing.

54 posted on 01/29/2016 6:22:02 AM PST by frog in a pot (What if a previous liberal D says most of the things we are not hearing from the R candidates?)
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To: frog in a pot
That's kinda like ..."No taxation without representation".....or

I have to pay taxes..but can never vote??" Absurd.

55 posted on 01/29/2016 6:25:36 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Write him off because he is a lying weasel who is owned by Goldman and the gay marriage lobby - sometimes. Then again he is owned by the Wallbuilder gang and Pastor Kevin Swanson other times.


56 posted on 01/29/2016 6:28:42 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: IC Ken
Cruz’s problem is no one likes him. Except for the evangelicals. If he was running for Preacher he would be a lock in. As president....he got nothing

If no one liked him, he couldn't have come from behind to beat David Dewhurst, the favored GOPe choice, for Senate in 2012, and he wouldn't be No. 2 in the race for the presidential nomination. No, those who dislike him are the McConnells, the McCains, the Orrin Hatches, and their ilk.

57 posted on 01/29/2016 6:29:16 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Has anything about this election been like any of the others? The momentum is clearly on Trump’s side at the moment and there was an article yesterday about how Trump’s ‘ground game’ (that everyone said he didn’t have) suddenly might be bigger than Cruz’.

The fact that someone felt the need to write an article like this one indicates serious problems with Cruz. I know you don’t want to hear that and I wouldn’t either if it had been an article about Fred Thompson back in the day, but it’s true.


58 posted on 01/29/2016 6:30:49 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Don’t Write Off Ted Cruz Because You Don’t Like Him”

For me, it’s more that he cannot win in November, which is why I’m voting for Trump. Cruz is still the best conservative out there, just cannot connect well and didn’t do well handling the assault last night, whereas either Trump would have dealt with it in some funny way, or any damage would have slithered right off him.

Cruz has a lot of years left to get himself (and the country) ready for a strong run...hopefully we see him again, soon.


59 posted on 01/29/2016 6:31:44 AM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: McGruff
When Trump beats Cruz in Iowa it will be the end of the road for Cruz’s presidential campaign. Good.

When President Trump pulls a Schwarzenegger and turns hard left, embracing and expanding Obama's agenda, you'll undoubtedly still be singing his praises.

60 posted on 01/29/2016 6:32:01 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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