Posted on 01/30/2016 10:24:06 PM PST by jennychase
The only affordable and workable system is a two-tier healthcare solution.
Private healthcare and insurance for those that can afford the best and a public system for all the rest.
Good care for all but allow those that can afford it to be in a separate, Cadillac system.
There is NO WAY that this country can afford Cadillac care for all comers on the public’s dime.
Get government out of the damned way and allow insurance across state lines.
Implement malpractice reform!!! At least require very large judgements to require a trial before 12 jurors... all of which must vote yea to grant large malpractice judgments.
The civil court method makes it too easy to award outrageous sums.
Get rid of the illegal freeloaders sucking all the $$$ out of taxpayers pockets to care for them. Build the wall, deport, end birthright citizenship... this will dramatically lower healthcare costs! The US taxpayer has no moral responsibility to care for all the world’s indigent :-(
BTW: we have had an extremely goofy and expensive system of universal healthcare for a very long time here in the US. It started when it became mandatory that anyone who shows up at an emergency room must get treatment regardless of ability to pay or citizenship status. I’m not saying here that the poor should be turned away to die in the street... I’m saying come up with something better and keep the illegals out so they don’t get a chance to show up at an ER.
Don’t feel sorry for them. They ‘’invested’’ in their bail out, along with the pharmaceutical companies.
This was a dirty, dirty deal. No one on the inside is clean & the taxpayers really got shafted. It didn’t have to be this way. They chose it.
Please read the article and the link to the 58 year old brother in law who had a business and skill his whole life.
I do not for one second believe this man who was a pillar of his community, friend of NFL players, businessman, family man, and was involved in charities - could never in his life afford healthcare until Obamacare shortly before his death.
I call total bull crap on his bil Hilary supporter.
The man who died was diagnosed with multiple tumors and the doctors said they could do nothing for him - a great victory for Obamacare?
“Well, seems to me we were doing OK— and paying less— before Obamacare. I think the best thing would be to just tell everyone to go back to what they were doing in 2008. In fact, doing that in all areas would solve a lot of our current problems.”
Or the fact that general practitioners spend 50% of their time on new, additional useless paperwork. Time better spent seeing patients.
Yess, tort reform. It is the damn lawyers that have caused healthcare costs to skyrocket in the first place.
Mr. Valde — who said in an interview later that he did in fact intend to caucus for Mrs. Clinton — pressed on.
“My question is, what are you going to replace it with?†he said.
So this klintoon idiot’s BIL never had health insurance before nobamacare. Meaning he got it dang near free.
Sounds like Cruz explained how nobamacare would be replaced. Am sure that did not satisfy the klintoon voter who wanted ‘Mo Free Shite’.
Tell us, how does that enhance your Pied Piper?
NO BRAINER ALERT!!! What had we before OBOZO COMMIE CARE???
Hint - it was ten gazillion times better.
What short memories.
Why would Americans want anything to replace Obamacare, if we manage to get rid of it?
Medicine is not something the gov’t should be involved in at the individual level.
I did not realize Jenny was a Bernie campaign worker.
We don’ not need to go back. We need to cut it off.End all government entanglement with insurance or medicine. The only legitimate involvement of the government in medicine is for the military and for veterans, and even there, for veterans it would be much better if the government just did vouchers. The results would be far better.
Repeal and replace is just code for keep the government involved and the system screwed up.
The market unhampered by government interference would make for much cheaper insurance and medicine. Most insurance would become actual insurance instead of the medical care prepayment system we have operated on increasingly since WWII. That prepayment system has to support many thousands of bureaucrats public and private and many office buildings and judges and lawyers. How can it be inexpensive with all those extra drones? They cost more than the actual practice of medicine.
What's preventing you from doing that now? Nothing makes me get my health care through my employer. Of course the fact that they pay 80% of the premium is a powerful incentive.
So the first proposal won't do anything and the last one puts the cost on the states.
Why don't we just realize that our healthcare system is what it is, it isn't going to change, and anything government does is just going to make it worse?
It does not need to be replaced by anything. States have always had programs for the indigent and disabled. The need to replace Obamacare has always been a mute argument. The idiocy of people astounds me.
The answer is a question. Why in hell should we have to pay fort your GD insurance. Individual states have programs for the needy. No one is turned away from getting needed healthcare. There are a zillion private agencies also.
“I will place Dr Ben in charge of the effort to sift among the various Republican solutions to develop the best solution that will pass”
Maybe he would have qualified for Medicaid even before expansion; is the brother willing to go into the financial statements, or does he just want to ask a “gotcha” question?
That sounds good, except that with a free market, insurance companies can refuse to sell insurance to anyone based on pre-existing conditions.
So they could refuse to sell insurance to anyone and everyone with diabetes, or high blood pressure, or any other condition.
Medicaid is available to people with no assets and very little income. But anyone who doesn't qualify for medicaid has to spend their own money on their healthcare expenses until they are wiped out financially. Then they too can have their healthcare expenses paid by the government.
A system like Canada has it's downsides, but I'm not convinced it would be any worse than either Obamacare, or what we had before.
There are HUGE amounts of money flowing into politics from the pharmaceutical industry and others related to healthcare. That's generally a good sign of a high amount of crony capitalism. But the Republicans are the ones primarily benefiting from it from that industry, so the Republican politicians incite the population to fight to maintain whatever system will best line their pockets.
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