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Ted Cruz Is A 'Natural Born Citizen,' Board (Illinois) Of Election Finds
Huffington Post ^ | 02/02/2016 06:37 pm ET | Cristian Farias

Posted on 02/02/2016 4:36:59 PM PST by 11th Commandment

On the same day he won the Republican Iowa caucus, Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas got a favorable decision from the Illinois Board of Elections, which ruled that he met the citizenship criteria to appear on the state's primary ballot.

Two objectors, Lawrence Joyce and William Graham, had challenged Cruz's presidential bid with the board, contending that his name should not appear on the March 15 ballot because his candidacy did not comply with Article II of the Constitution.

In response to the filings, Cruz's lawyers relied on Supreme Court precedent, legal history and articles from noted constitutional scholars to defend the view that he is in fact "natural born" within the meaning in the Constitution.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: cruz; naturalborncitizen
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To: philman_36

I’m sorry, I’m on your side. I didn’t mean it to go to you. I think I’m just so frustrated that intelligent people can’t or won’t understand I’m not paying attention.


301 posted on 02/02/2016 7:36:40 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: 11th Commandment
Ted Cruz Is A 'Natural Born Citizen,' Board (Illinois) Of Election Finds

I can't wait to hear what they think the Second Amendment means.

302 posted on 02/02/2016 7:36:50 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: outofsalt

There is no birthright citizenship...that was made up whole cloth by the courts who have no business doing Congress’ job of naturalizing citizens.

Besides, even if anchor babies are citizens under some farked up decision by the courts....they’re certainly not natural-born Citizens.


303 posted on 02/02/2016 7:37:37 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (DEPORT OBOLA VOTERS)
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To: outofsalt
...according to the law at the time...

The "law" you keep using is a naturalization law, the only kind of law Congress is empowered by the Constitution to enact.

Please do, however, keep using that naturalization law as your erroneous vehicle of choice.

304 posted on 02/02/2016 7:38:00 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: outofsalt; Mother Mary

U.S. Constitution Article 1 Section provides that Congress has the power to enact Rules of Naturalization. Notice that it doesn’t say Rules of Citizenship. It says Naturalization, and it is the application of citizenship to those that do not have citizenship through natural means (NBC) or provided through the Constitution (founding fathers).

So Congressional legislation in regards to citizenship is a rule of Naturalization. Congress can only define citizenship requirements for those naturalized. This was done intentionally to prevent Congress from enacting law to revoke a NBCs citizenship.

Any law enacted by Congress to grant citizenship is naturalization. If you notice, there is no Congressional legislation for those born in the US, and having jurisdiction. The processes and requirements vary and are defined within the legislation. For example, Congressional legislation requires that persons born to foreign parents outside of the US must be a legal resident for 14 years and take a test and oath to get citizenship. And within the same legislation, require that all persons born to US citizen parents outside of the US to file paperwork x, y, and z to enact citizenship for their child at the time of birth. Both are processes of naturalization with different requirements for enacting citizenship, but both are resulting in naturalized citizens.


305 posted on 02/02/2016 7:38:25 PM PST by PJBankard (It is the spirit of the men who leads that gains the victory. - Gen. George Patton)
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To: DiogenesLamp

LOL


306 posted on 02/02/2016 7:39:25 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (DEPORT OBOLA VOTERS)
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To: taxcontrol
That includes who does and does not need to be naturalized.

Non sequitur.

307 posted on 02/02/2016 7:39:32 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Duchess47

That’s quite all right.


308 posted on 02/02/2016 7:39:44 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: RginTN

I want nothing to do with you, and prefer that you want nothing to do with me, either.


309 posted on 02/02/2016 7:40:27 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: abigkahuna
I am against OPEN BORDERS!!

Thus far Trump is the only one willing to speak without the PC trash about what has and continues to happen to US. I have no confidence that Jesus, I mean Cruz or Rabbio cares one whit about Obama’s illegal invasion.

Cruz and Rabbio’s donors own them and when one peeks behind who owns them it does not indicate maintaining US a sovereign nation.

I will add God is in control so I have no illusions about what the political/legal class have intentions to do to US. Sometimes people have to learn the hard way.

310 posted on 02/02/2016 7:41:50 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: cookcounty

Arthur is rumored to be from Canada, but is said to be from Vermont. There is no substantial proof that he wasn’t an NBC born in Vermont. It was only speculation. Obama is the only president that was elected and wasn’t eligible. The only reason he is in office is because of PC BS and our Congress and SC is a bunch of pansies.


311 posted on 02/02/2016 7:42:04 PM PST by PJBankard (It is the spirit of the men who leads that gains the victory. - Gen. George Patton)
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To: PJBankard

A nbc shouldn’t change with the times. When Cruz was born 10 year residency requirement.now 5 year residency...next year could be 1 year.etc


312 posted on 02/02/2016 7:44:28 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Zhang Fei
I thought it was a legally-unworkable and below-the-belt maneuver when it was leveled against Obama.

You mean apart from the fact that it is an actual requirement?

. I wonder to what extent the birther movement helped to energize pro-Obama voters, out of a sense that his GOP birther critics were a bunch of scumbags.

None. What energized pro-Obama voters is his color. He was elected on no merit beyond that. The thought of having a "black" President gave the Media people orgasms. They elected him with their biased coverage.

It is a shame that the first black President had to be an idiot.

313 posted on 02/02/2016 7:45:27 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Non sequitur

Don't say that. He might reappear :-)

314 posted on 02/02/2016 7:46:26 PM PST by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: RummyChick

It doesn’t. Congress can only enact legislation to grant citizenship for those that don’t have already have citizenship through natural means (NBC) or granted directly via the Constitution.

Please reread my post.


315 posted on 02/02/2016 7:48:01 PM PST by PJBankard (It is the spirit of the men who leads that gains the victory. - Gen. George Patton)
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To: 11th Commandment

“This is settled law.”

There is nothing settled about the issue. What you are witnessing is the subversion and overthrow of the Constitution and the Republic which has been ongoing ever since the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. The Soviet Union also had a Constitution which was subverted and treated as a worthless piece of paper too. These corrupt politicians of Illinois succeed in perpetuating this corruption because people like those right here on FR condone the criminal conduct. Benjamin Franklin warned it would be up to the American people to “keep” the Republic if they could. Just as the U.S. voters failed to “keep” the Republic when they put the British citizen in the White House, Chester Arthur, so too are the present day citizens and non-citizens failing and even promoting the corruption and straight forward denouncement of the Constitution, the Republic, the Rule of Law, and most everything they stand for in America. This corruption is shameful and can onoly lead to domestic tyranny, oppression, poverty, and death.


316 posted on 02/02/2016 7:48:08 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: DiogenesLamp
The text in question from Article I Section 8 reads:

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

I assert that there is no limitation on that power. If you look at the following clause, there is also no limitation on the authority of Congress over bankruptcy laws.

You then stated that my assertion does not naturally follow the statement. Please explain how you came to that conclusion, or by way of rebuttal, show how Congress is limited by the Constitution in it's authority over all rules of naturalization.

317 posted on 02/02/2016 7:49:17 PM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: PJBankard

That was the point of my post


318 posted on 02/02/2016 7:49:21 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Electric Graffiti
Article 1 Section 8 Clause 4 Categories of Citizens: Birth and Naturalization The first sentence of Sec. 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment contemplates two sources of citizenship and two only: birth and naturalization. 1143 This contemplation is given statutory expression in Sec. 301 of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, 1144 which itemizes those categories of persons who are citizens of the United States at birth; all other persons in order to become citizens must pass through the naturalization process. The first category merely tracks the language of the first sentence of Sec. 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment in declaring that all persons born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens by birth. 1145 But there are six other categories of citizens by birth. They are: (2) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe, (3) a person born outside the United States of citizen parents one of whom has been resident in the United States, (4) a person born outside the United States of one citizen parent who has been continuously resident in the United States for one year prior to the birth and of a parent who is a national but not a citizen, (5) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of one citizen parent who has been continuously resident in the United States or an outlying possession for one year prior to the birth, (6) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five unless prior to his twenty-first birthday he is shown not to have been born in the United States, and (7) a person born outside the United States of an alien parent and a citizen parent who has been resident in the United States for a period of ten years, provided the person is to lose his citizenship unless he resides continuously in the United States for a period of five years between his fourteenth and twenty-eighth birthdays.

Subsection (7) citizens must satisfy the condition subsequent of five years continuous residence within the United States between the ages of fourteen and twenty-eight, a requirement held to be constitutional, 1146 which means in effect that for constitutional purposes, according to the prevailing interpretation, there is a difference between persons born or naturalized in, that is, within, the United States and persons born outside the confines of the United States who are statutorily made citizens. 1147 The principal dif ference is that the former persons may not be involuntarily expatriated whereas the latter may be, subject only to due process protections. 1148 - See more at: http://constitution.findlaw.com/article1/annotation36.html#4

319 posted on 02/02/2016 7:50:57 PM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: 11th Commandment
Ted Cruz Is A 'Natural Born Citizen,' Board (Illinois) Of Election Finds

Chicago, Bugsy Daley, Rahm Immanual, Obama, Hitlary...that means...He isn't.

320 posted on 02/02/2016 7:51:08 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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