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Donald Trump: Clueless About Free Trade
Townhall.com ^ | February 4, 2016 | Larry Elder

Posted on 02/04/2016 6:18:16 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: central_va

That just sucks! Now the government wants to remove country of origin labels from our food. This crap needs to stop.


81 posted on 02/04/2016 7:21:19 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If Free Trade is so good why is so hard to find out where a product is made? Why are products clearly labelled? If it doesn’t clearly say Made in the USA then it’s not.


82 posted on 02/04/2016 7:22:03 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Free traders in a mercantilist world are suckers. Yeah, we can buy more of their crap and live well, but off borrowed money, because the Nation cannot build wealth.


83 posted on 02/04/2016 7:23:04 AM PST by steve8714 (Evidently Breitbart.com has changed their name to "not responding".)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The question could be fairer put as: would they welcome a lower welfare bill, less social problems with the unemployed, and a higher average salary, even though the price of “cheap junk” would be more? What if this ended up a wash or better?

Never mind the "higher average salary" fantasy, how would you guarantee lower welfare, fewer social problems, etc. in such a way as to show benefit to the consumers who see their costs go up?

84 posted on 02/04/2016 7:23:14 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Tariffs used to be the only money supply of the Federal Government. Was this evenly assessed across the board? If so, a burden of course, but also not an unfair subsidy to anybody unless it was America in general.

And this is not a single variable problem. I’d rather get a job from even a crony than from nobody at all.


85 posted on 02/04/2016 7:23:21 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SubMareener
We are certainly free to put additional tariffs on Chinese goods. If they are manipulating their currency lower, that can be seen as cheating. Just as dumping is. He didn't say we have an agreement with China.
86 posted on 02/04/2016 7:23:47 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Tariff Act of 1789

Michael P. Malloy

The Tariff Act of 1789 (1 Stat. 24), signed into law by President George Washington on July 4, 1789, was the first substantive legislation passed by the first Congress. This act, together with the Collection Act of 1789, operated as a device both to protect trade and to raise revenues for the federal government. The constitutional authority for the act is found in the powers given to Congress “to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imports and Excises” and “to regulate Commerce with foreign Nations.” Among other things, the act established the first schedule of import duties and created an additional duty of 10 percent on imports carried on vessels “not of the United States.”
U.S. TRADE POLICY

The specific provisions of the act are of little interest (by 1799 it had been superseded by subsequent, more detailed legislation). However, the act remains significant for setting the basics of U.S. trade policy. In supporting its enactment, Alexander Hamilton argued that tariffs would encourage domestic industry. Other nations offered their industries significant subsidies, or money given by a government to support a private business. Hamilton contended that a tariff would protect U.S. industry from the effects of these subsidies. (Concerns over “dumping” -imported goods sold at less than their fair value to gain unfair advantage over domestic goods—would also be addressed in the Tariff Act of 1816.) Another argument in favor of tariffs is now easy to forget. Before the income tax was authorized by the Sixteenth Amendment in 1913, the tariff was a key source of federal revenue. Thus, for over a century import duties (along with domestic excise taxes) were the major source of government revenue, with sugar duties alone accounting for approximately 20 percent of all import duties.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3407400280.html


87 posted on 02/04/2016 7:24:09 AM PST by Pelham (Marco Rubio (R-Amnesty). Boy Wonder of the GOP elite.)
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To: DoodleDawg

It is a do-the-math situation. And you beg the question by calling it a fantasy. It is a fantasy in the way that your household budget is a fantasy.


88 posted on 02/04/2016 7:24:22 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I agree - it is called free trade but it is free trade the way Greenland is green.

What we have are deals and agreements. I think our negotiators work to ensure our grain is allowed in to other countries and in return we lose our manufacturing. Agro business has loved free trade. Manufacturing - not so much. In my tin foil hat moments I always wonder if becoming the world's breadbasket is a way for the US to become the defacto world empire - the indispensable nation. We run the world by feeding it - but in exchange we lose our manufacturing base and our national identities.

89 posted on 02/04/2016 7:25:33 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: central_va

I’m kind of amused that cowboy duds now are made in China. Whoopie ti yi yo, get along little chow meins.

That would be less ironic if we were selling them more beef too.


90 posted on 02/04/2016 7:26:11 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: central_va
Granted, I got it on sale for $29.95 at Dicks Sporting Goods on Black Friday, but even if they cost $100.00, if they were still made in the USA, I would feel better about it.

I think it would be great to put the $29.95 Daisy and the $100.00 Daisy side by side, and let Americans vote with their wallets.

You tariff junkies up for the challenge??

91 posted on 02/04/2016 7:27:13 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (Trump can't decide whether he's Ronald Reagan or Huey Long.)
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To: massgopguy

Scrap paper and corrugated to package the electronics they ship here.


92 posted on 02/04/2016 7:27:54 AM PST by steve8714 (Evidently Breitbart.com has changed their name to "not responding".)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Well for those who still revere icons of Americana, one that could certify that not just it but all its parts were made in USA and met a high quality standard, might sell even better after all. This is not a high volume item, people don’t buy dozens of Daisies.


93 posted on 02/04/2016 7:28:49 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
Raise the price on Chinese appliances 45% and the result will be that locally-made appliances will go up 44%.

That is the point, that is a good thing. With a built in profit margin domestic competition will spring up driving prices to return to "normal" lower levels. That is how it works. In the meantime the tariff brings in non income tax revenue which reduces the burden on the tax payers. It is like a Vietnamese Law firm - win-win.(Nguyen-Nguyen)

94 posted on 02/04/2016 7:28:49 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin

Other countries have slave labor and at a minimum throw tariffs on all our goods to destroy our sales elsewhere. Not free trade.

We need a global $15 minimum wage so we can compete with our own stupidity.


95 posted on 02/04/2016 7:31:13 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

“I’m not sure what a Mexican flop house has to do with tariffs.”

Then you need to read up on what happened when NAFTA removed all restrictions on the import of corn and wheat into Mexico. An enormous number of unemployed Mexican small farmers headed north across the border.


96 posted on 02/04/2016 7:31:44 AM PST by Pelham (Marco Rubio (R-Amnesty). Boy Wonder of the GOP elite.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

He [Elder] didn’t say we have an agreement with China.
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So what? It’s the implication. Ben Carson didn’t say he was leaving the race. Donald Trump didn’t say he supports Obamacare. I was in Syracuse NY when NAFTA was ratified. The Carrier Air Conditioning plant was closed down within the year and moved to Mexico. The Chamber of Commerce’s concept of “free trade” sucks.


97 posted on 02/04/2016 7:32:14 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
Remember the auto import quotas of the '70s? American manufacturers responded by raising prices and cutting quality. Worst cars ever built. Nothing before or after as bad.

I remember. America made really great cars up to 1972, then the oil crises hit and Japan got lucky because they had a small vehicles that were needed at the time. Pure luck. Amercan engineers were dumb founded and made same really crappy cars for a while but then they caught up . Thank God for embargoes and tariffs they saved the US auto industry. Hurray for protectionism! Hurray for America!

98 posted on 02/04/2016 7:35:48 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

The made in USA Daisey BB guns did not cost $100. He said even if.....


99 posted on 02/04/2016 7:40:36 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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100 posted on 02/04/2016 7:40:51 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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