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Armed Social Security Recipients are Now Targeted by Obama
Freedom Outpost ^ | 2/10/2016 | Tim Brown

Posted on 02/12/2016 5:04:14 AM PST by HomerBohn

If you've got a gun and you receive Social Security, you are now being targeted by the Obama administration.

In the latest stealth effort by the Communist administration, the Social Security Administration is wanting to list the names of those who receive Social Security benefits to the National Instant Check System (NICS) as "prohibited persons." This would effectively ban them from being able to purchase a gun and would target those who already own guns.

It would also be a clear violation of the Fifth Amendment's due process clause.

The LA Times has the story:

The push is intended to bring the Social Security Administration in line with laws regulating who gets reported to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS, which is used to prevent gun sales to felons, drug addicts, immigrants in the country illegally and others.

A potentially large group within Social Security are people who, in the language of federal gun laws, are unable to manage their own affairs due to "marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease."

If Social Security, which has never participated in the background check system, uses the same standard as the VA, millions of its beneficiaries would be affected. About 4.2 million adults receive monthly benefits that are managed by 'representative payees.'

The Veterans Administration has been involved in this for years now, as they have sought to disarm our veterans, those who have fought to defend the very rights they are being deprived. My good friend Leon Puissegur seems to have been targeted in such a manner.

Just like the VA, the Social Security Administration would have no judicial oversight, which would mean they would end up violating the Constitutional rights of American citizens under the Second and Fifth Amendments.

We already know that the NICS system is being used to build a database, despite it being against the law to do so.

Owning a gun is not a crime. Being a veteran is not a crime. Being elderly is not a crime. Even being marked as having "subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease" is not a crime. Therefore, people's rights should not be infringed because a mentally ill, criminal usurper thinks they should be.

Any way this criminal administration can think of restricting or confiscating guns, they are looking to do it. Whether it is through the Veterans Administration, more background checks, or putting people on a random no-fly list, they are openly defying God, the people and the Constitution.

What Americans need to keep their eyes on is the simple fact that the united States Constitution does not grant any authority to DC politicians to write law nor impose by executive order the restriction of guns for citizens. Congress doesn't have that authority, the Executive Branch doesn't have that authority and neither does the Judicial Branch. This is a usurpation and always has been because every federal gun law is unconstitutional!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bathhousebarry; evilobamaregime; fruitcakepresident; phonypresident
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To: originalbuckeye

So if your well off enough to have someone else manage you affairs you to unstable to own a gun.

These assholes never rest


21 posted on 02/12/2016 5:33:12 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: HomerBohn

Someone can be incapable of managing their funds but not be dangerous, violent or unsafe.
Such as seniors with poor memories still having check books using duplicate check copies in their checkbooks to keep from forgetting to log written checks, or seniors who never could balance a checkbook.

But, liberalism paints its enemies with a broad brush.


22 posted on 02/12/2016 5:34:14 AM PST by Sasparilla ('Hillary for Prosecution 2016)
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To: FrankR

He is truly a complex sociopath whose brain should be examined thoroughly in an effort to see what makes him tick.

Perhaps Dr. Carson could conduct the operation.

Too bad he didn’t have a frontal lobotomy years ago.


23 posted on 02/12/2016 5:35:43 AM PST by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Damned shame all my guns went to the bottom during that horrible boating accident....


24 posted on 02/12/2016 5:36:44 AM PST by tgusa (gun control: hitting your target.)
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To: Essie

So don’t answer the survey, or else find another doctor.


25 posted on 02/12/2016 5:38:16 AM PST by tgusa (gun control: hitting your target.)
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To: LambSlave

Thanks for that work.

But we still must not forget that the journey of a 1000 miles begins with but just one step. :0)


26 posted on 02/12/2016 5:39:25 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: QBFimi
I’ve spent my 50 years as a registered ‘RAT, happily screwing up their primaries by voting for all their loosers. (-:

How do you manage selecting from such a large pool?

27 posted on 02/12/2016 5:39:56 AM PST by thulldud
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To: HomerBohn

And the Quisling socialist Republican party has been right at the usurper’s side helping him every step of the way. It is as if we have a muzzie loving traitorous speaker of the house and majorities in the house and senate. Oh wait, my bad, we do.


28 posted on 02/12/2016 5:41:08 AM PST by Badboo (Why it is important)
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To: tgusa

I do not own any of my guns. Some of what I might have had outlived their owners by decades - others that I may have had are younger, sure to outlive me. Yet, they will still exist - somewhere.


29 posted on 02/12/2016 5:41:12 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: LambSlave
it appears this ONLY applies to people receiving SS benefits who have a “representative payee”; e.g. people who have acknowledged that they are not mentally competent to manage their own affairs

This, actually, I understand
I personally have first hand knowledge of an inadvertent Murder of Spouse by a mentally compromised Veteran. A WWII vet mistook his own wife for an intruder, shot and killed her, and then calmly called 911 to report the event, when the Police got there, he still thought he had shot an intruder.

When one is a Neurologist, one hears some very scary stories... This one was the patient of a partner. I was on call that night and it was... unpleasant.

30 posted on 02/12/2016 5:41:58 AM PST by HangnJudge (Cthulhu for President, why vote for a lesser Evil)
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To: CGASMIA68

“These assholes never rest”

Just look at Bernie Sanders. An old communist fool who will not let it go. Still wants to control everyone.


31 posted on 02/12/2016 5:43:28 AM PST by odawg
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To: HomerBohn

If you collect SS and have H and R Block do your tax returns or Turbo Tax has to fly in a smart person to help you do your return, then no gun for you?


32 posted on 02/12/2016 5:56:24 AM PST by mom.mom
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To: Essie

What’s the problem here? Just lie through your teeth. That way, not only are you “complying’” but any data the Gestapo collects will be so riddled with garbage as to be virtually unusable.


33 posted on 02/12/2016 5:58:39 AM PST by IronJack
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To: HomerBohn

“A potentially large group within Social Security are people who, in the language of federal gun laws, are unable to manage their own affairs due to “marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease.””

That’s scary, so you can be denied because you are an amputee.


34 posted on 02/12/2016 5:58:42 AM PST by dila813
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To: Essie

I got one of these ‘Community Surveys” a few years ago and ran it through the shredder.


35 posted on 02/12/2016 6:06:42 AM PST by jimbug
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To: HomerBohn
He is truly a complex sociopath whose brain should be examined thoroughly in an effort to see what makes him tick.

Sounds good if it's part of an autopsy.

36 posted on 02/12/2016 6:08:33 AM PST by jimbug
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To: Essie

“”If you are over 65 and you go to your doctor, this year you will get a survey asking a lot of personal questions””

Where are you getting this information from? Hasn’t happened to either my husband or myself this year or any other year.


37 posted on 02/12/2016 6:12:45 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: jimbug

Sounds like two different things.

The Community Survey is basically the intrusive long form sent out by the Census Bureau to some, but not all, households.

What Essie is talking about is an intrusive form doctors give to their patients who are over 65. I’ve never heard of this form, then again, I am under the age of 65.


38 posted on 02/12/2016 6:13:02 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Politicians and diapers must be changed often and for the same reason.....Mark Twain)
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To: Thank You Rush

Perhaps this form is something new, just ramping up.

I have never heard of it either, but I am under the age of 65.


39 posted on 02/12/2016 6:15:54 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Politicians and diapers must be changed often and for the same reason.....Mark Twain)
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To: Badboo

Just one example of many: CORKER (TN)


40 posted on 02/12/2016 6:16:10 AM PST by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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