Posted on 02/17/2016 6:13:36 PM PST by AlienCrossfirePlayer
An Open Memo To Lou Dobbs
As CEO, Tim Cooks obligation is to execute the corporate mission. Briefly stated, a corporation must deliver product to customers and return on investment to shareholders. It is not his job to make the nation secure from geo-political terrorism. Your suggestion that Mr. Cook will be culpable when another attack occurs was a stinking cheap shot. Obama has the job of making us secure and is failing us. Today on the sister network Fox News Channel, Obama was heard calling for improved cyber security. Do you see an irony?
By resisting encroachment by the courts, Mr. Cook is executing the corporate mission. Apples customers dont want their data to be made less secure. Apples investors dont want their research dollars to be wasted. In short courts are demanding that Apple degrade its very excellent product. Leave Apple alone. American citizens want their private data to remain secure.
Ben Franklin: He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.
If only Hillary and her cronies had stored all the country’s secrets on an iPhone. Maybe she wouldn’t be facing hard time after she drops out of the presidential race.
They can’t.
“to investigate?”
Sure they do, except that in this case, it will result in everyone’s phone being hijacked, not just the killers.
I think we’re spied on more than enough already. I don’t want to see more, which is exactly what we will get if they comply with this warrant.
Don’t forget the feds still have traditional means to obtain the info they seek.
“Why can’t Apple just unlock this one phone for the FBI?”
Evidently, mass murderers are exempt from the law and Apple has determined to protect them.
“apers and effects of mass murderers should be protected”
Never said so. I’m talking about it’s use on the general public, not the two in question.
Not a fan of Tim Cook the fag or his refusal to help the FBI in this one case. He has no leg to stand on, a warrant is a warrant.
That being said, what the hell are we paying billions of dollars to degenerate retard cyber sleuths at the NSA and FBI if they cant hack a goddamned iPhone 5C?
Cook ought to make a deal, they all resign, and then he will take 2 minutes and give them the answer.
has the resources to resist an overreaching by the government on this new matter of “un-openable safesâ€.
I certainly don’t want the Fourth Amendment made useless as Apple wishes, but neither do I want a solution that gives government power to do more than has historically been done
Exactly, what the hell are we paying billions of dollars to degenerate retard cyber sleuths at the NSA and FBI and 20 other useless Federal Agencies if they cant hack a goddamned IPhone 5C?
Cook ought to make a deal, they all resign, and then he will take 2 minutes and give them the answer.
Apple should take the phone, crack it and give the information to the FBI...
They should NOT give the FBI information on how to crack the codes themselves... Get the wrong person in there and they’ll be like the IRS - spying on Conservative groups.
You need the passcode to update the software. Can you force software onto the phone without It and not brick the phone and defeating the whole purpose of the exercise?
Think about it. A crook steals your phone or you lose it. How to get to your data? We’ll install a jailbreak version of the OS bypassing security. Apple thought of that.
Right. Unbreakable communication already exists online if you use encryption.
The only question here is whether the iPhone should be “breakable”. No law says that it does.
“Never said so. I’m talking about it’s use on the general public, not the two in question.”
Well, if we can’t open this, that is exactly what we are doing. We are handing terrorists and lawbreakers all over the world free leg up the cops. Or you. The plans that are in the works to kill you, even if the cops know the phone where they are, we can’t get at them.
Sucks to be you.
To paraphrase, Unlock this phone only.
The dead Jihadi has no right to privacy and there is a court order. Refusing is obstruction of justice.
On general principle, I agree with Apple. I don’t want to give the Federal government a back door into everyone’s cell phones.
However, in this particular case, they need to decrypt so they can find the terrorists murderer’s connections.
Perhaps there is a solution that protects both interests. Perhaps, for example, Apple could have its people specifically decrypt this particular phone and give the FBI the decrypted device. Or perhaps there is some other solution that balances these interests.
“Sounds like they forgot the requirement that it be agreeable to the law. “
You miss my point, which is that that is how far-reaching (agreeably to the law) the power is: powerful enough for a court to use to destroy a city.
The Founders gave the courts such power because a court’s orders have to be obeyed in a lawful society. But unfortunately there is no way to make judges wise.
IANAL but what I see on the web doesn’t give Apple much of a chance of beating the writ.
IMO ‘un-openable” safes vitiate the 4th Amendment: what good is it then to citizens or to police
if the nonphysical evidence Is easily placed where it can’t be accessed.
“Right. Unbreakable communication already exists online if you use encryption. The only question here is whether the iPhone should be “breakableâ€.
For the third or forth time, there is a way to get the information legally. For this one phone. That has been issued a warrant for it and it only. If someone encrypts their own code and they are served a warrant, they would be treated in the same way under the same law.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Seriously, if you don’t understand how this all works, as you are pretending, I feel sorrier for you than if you do and are just being an asshole. The fact that apple is doing this is no more different than someone using an encrypted code. If you wrote, you gonna provide what it says according to the law, or suffer the consequences. Goodnight, outlaw.
Show me where in that text it gives the government the power to order a citizen to create something that does not exist in order to comply. The iOS that the FBI wants does not exist. The warrant demands that Apple writes NEW code to create it. Can a judge order you to write out a confession of everything you've ever done that was against the law? Can they order you to build a set of lockpicking tools in order to break into your own house?
The 4th Amendment requires citizens to turn over any information in their possession when served with a warrant. Everyone (including the FBI) agrees that Apple doesn't have the passcode. So what can they be ordered to hand over?
Well, I’d like to understand why that approach is impossible.
I see the American citizen losing freedom to buy a secure container for his personal data. I see a big distinction between Apples corporate mission and ISIS.
Answer: Non whatsoever
Apple should politely tell this court to wipe their ass with this order. The iphone was manufactured and sold legally and apple no longer owns the phone. If the feds want to compel a legal search warrant they have to go to the dead terrorist to have the phone unlocked. Apple has NOTHING to do with this case. Wake up people this is not even debatable. This is not the Soviet Union.
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