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Where Did China Get This F-22 Raptor?
popular mechanics ^ | Feb 17, 2016 | Kyle Mizokami

Posted on 02/18/2016 11:43:30 AM PST by sparklite2

A sleepy airport in rural China is not where you'd expect to find America's latest and greatest fighter plane. And yet at some point in the last six weeks a F-22 Raptor--or full-sized copy of one--was sighted by commercial imaging satellites parked at Pucheng Neifu Airport in China.

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To: kaehurowing
Plans downloaded from Hillary's emails

OMG, do you realize this could LITERALLY be true?

And then Obama CANCELS OUR F-22 program!

Treason.

41 posted on 02/18/2016 12:08:15 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: PIF

Yes, the conventional round engine exhausts are just visible in the photo. The F-22 exhaust ducts are shaped to enhance stealth and can be vectored for maneuverability. Aircraft shape, no 90 degree surface angles for example, is relatively easy to imitate but is only one factor in making an aircraft less radar reflective. That the Chinese have been working on an F-22 lookalike is old news.


42 posted on 02/18/2016 12:08:15 PM PST by katana (Just my opinion)
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To: oldplayer

“I love all the laughter directed at the Chi-Coms. Sounds frighteningly similar to the derision directed at the “buck-toothed, glasses-wearing Japs” and their cheap antiquated aircraft prior to Dec. 7, 1941.

Lots of young Americans died because we failed to recognize a real threat when it existed.”


Indeed, the Jap Zero was arguably the finest fighter plane on the planet for a long time. Its drawback was what made it able to climb so fast and maneuver so well -— lack of armor. They also had superb, but too few, pilots.

Additionally, when the war broke out, American torpedoes were virtually worthless, going too deeply under the target to hit anything. Sub commanders would return from patrol having hit nothing. Washington blamed the skippers before doing anything about it after the war had been going on for a year or two.

If you read the history of the Battle of Midway, it’s largely an embarrassing litany of wasting men and material against an enemy who suffered not a scratch until late in the game.


43 posted on 02/18/2016 12:08:32 PM PST by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: PIF
I have a very powerful magnifying glass just made for tiny things

I gave one to my last girl friend and now she believes me.........

44 posted on 02/18/2016 12:08:33 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: PIF

Its mostly stolen....BAE UK in 2010 while paying up FCPA and related fines admitted some of the F22 design was stolen by India and paid additional fines to the US and Uk Gov.. about 480M pounds ... Look at the joint Indian/Russian F22 clone... I am sure the Chinese stole it from India...

Hence, the reason congress wanted to cut the F22 budget...


45 posted on 02/18/2016 12:10:26 PM PST by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: elpadre

Maybe Hilary gave away more than secrets??


Oh, come on! What difference does it make?


46 posted on 02/18/2016 12:11:38 PM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: thinden

DANG! Beat to it. Was klintoon payback for all that campaign money.


47 posted on 02/18/2016 12:12:17 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: ronnie raygun
Maybe they went in halves.

Happy Birthday Hu,

Your friends,

Barry, Mooch, Shrill and Bubba

48 posted on 02/18/2016 12:13:05 PM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: sparklite2

Oh great, now we lost more jobs, but we can have the Chinese build them for us at 1/3 rd the cost.


49 posted on 02/18/2016 12:18:37 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (HILLARY 2016 - SERIOUSLY? What are they thinking? Wuff, wuff?)
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To: Red Badger
latest PHOTINT: it only comes up to your knees.
50 posted on 02/18/2016 12:18:43 PM PST by golux
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To: sparklite2

clever


51 posted on 02/18/2016 12:19:35 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: sparklite2

Would you agree that our arrogance and short-sightedness contributed to our unpreparedness?

Once hit over the head with a 2x4, the Grumman boys went back to the slide rulers and quickly came back with the Hellcat, designed specifically to be a Zero killer. They succeeded way beyond what could be expected under the circumstances. Not a very handsome airplane, but effective at its task.
(I had a good friend that flew them in WWII. He liked the Hellcat much better than the Corsair, which he also flew in combat. Interestingly, he said the Corsair wasn’t significantly faster in actual service.”)

Oldplayer


52 posted on 02/18/2016 12:19:55 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: liberalh8ter

No, Clintons seconded by JV Obama. NOTHING he does is original!


53 posted on 02/18/2016 12:20:59 PM PST by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: 20yearsofinternet

Sounds like a typical Harbor Freight product.


54 posted on 02/18/2016 12:22:52 PM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: Red Badger

!NO! What am I going to use? My model making career is over ... washed up, finito, done, cooked ...


55 posted on 02/18/2016 12:26:23 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: liberalh8ter

My thoughts too.


56 posted on 02/18/2016 12:29:30 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: oldplayer

I suspect the main reason we were unprepared was our isolationist tendencies and the belief that we were safe behind our two oceans.

The Japanese, following Pearl Harbor and their complete victories in the Pacific, had accomplished everything they had sat out to do, and like a car-chasing dog who doesn’t know what to do with the car when he catches it, began suffering from what they later described as “victory disease,” the feeling of being invulnerable. Yamamoto knew better.


57 posted on 02/18/2016 12:29:51 PM PST by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: oldplayer

Hellcat was the first plane the put the guns concentric to the rolling axis, thus you could turn and still keep the rounds on target... the Corsair not so much, still have to know your lead and lag plus range...plus the Hellcat was much easier to land on a carrier... I knew several pilots that flew both and hands down all chose the Hellcat


58 posted on 02/18/2016 12:34:25 PM PST by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: Article10

The F-22 doesn’t have a budget. The (Sen-D) Obey Amendment killed the program years ago by forbiding export. The Chinese knock off came out several years after the amendment was enacted.

Killing the part of the Pentagon budget used towards the dog-pile F-35 ... that would be worthwhile. But that money will go towards vital things like: the navy’s self-sinking LCS and installing female friendly restrooms, lactation and pregnancy awareness programs - and coming up with physical standards that females can meet for all services and the systems needed to eliminate all training scores generated by said females.


59 posted on 02/18/2016 12:34:26 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

As did the Indian version... the theft occurred in the late 1990’s but only was acknowledged in 2010...


60 posted on 02/18/2016 12:36:45 PM PST by Article10 (Roger That)
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