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A Three-Man Race After South Carolina: What we Learned
The National Review ^ | February 21, 2016 | Jeremy Carl

Posted on 02/21/2016 2:33:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Elsie

Exactly!!!

They ESTABLISHMENT are trying to spin it ONE way only.

It’s ridiculous!

Did Rubio even win any delegates?

I think Trump won them all.


41 posted on 02/21/2016 3:40:44 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You should let the TRUTH be your guiding light and NOT the LIES and SPIN of the Establishment Media.

This article is absolutely pathetic and screams of desperation by the Establishment Media.

If I were you, then I would not waste my time reading this trash.


42 posted on 02/21/2016 3:43:38 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

43 posted on 02/21/2016 3:47:32 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

44 posted on 02/21/2016 3:49:57 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

https://youtu.be/8lGH_DvtBEM

Don’t blame me for the content, i thought it was funny.

Frankly i would use it for a campaign video. Ckean up the obvious video splicing.


45 posted on 02/21/2016 3:52:48 AM PST by Daniel Ramsey (You don't have to like Trump, his enemies certainly don't.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“In many ways, Marco Rubio had the best night,”

Considering this is a RINO publication and their boy John Ellis dropped out, looks like Rubio has officially been crowned the new establishment candidate.


46 posted on 02/21/2016 4:00:26 AM PST by MagnoliaB (You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you might find, you get what you need.)
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To: reviled downesdad
We need a Cruz Trump coalition.

How do you have a "coalition" between two guys competing for the same job? Cruz spent six months hanging onto Trump's coattails while Donald cleared the GOPe field, now he wants to slide in and take Donald's place as leader of the revolt. Cruz needs to quit, and his supporters need to switch to Trump. Not necessarily in that order.

47 posted on 02/21/2016 4:01:44 AM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man St anding.)
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To: Night Hides Not
Good luck winning the Presidency without a key part of the base.

You are the ones complaining that you're going to support Trump if he is the nominee I have never, nor have I heard the Trump supporters make that claim about the others.

Your guy is not able to win. He is too much into his ideology, at the expense of having a coherent message that appeals to enough people to elect him. He may have lead in Iowa, but the people have seen him as the opportunistic ideologue that wants everybody to fall in line with him. He has talked enough to convince a few, but talked too much for most of us.

Just as he got a third place finish, he goes on the stage and touts his WIN. Excuse me, but he came in THIRD out of SIX. I watched the him speak on CNN and after they CUT HIM OFF, they all laughed at his claim to be a winner. They laughed! Me, too.

Cruz will never be POTUS. At the rate he is going, he will be lucky to make it back to his law firm for employment. I seriously doubt that Texas will support him again. He doesn't have Sarah Palin any more! At least his wife didn't give up her day job with the MegaBank. They may need another undisclosed loan.

Teddy Bare is a lawyer. He will say whatever tickles the ears. He is not a good Senator. He skips work too much. He would be a horrible POTUS, as he has no idea where to start (except with his pulpits among the churches that allow him to speak). His inability to cross the aisle, or even come to comity with his Pubbie peers, would be his Waterloo.

Teddy is a loser, right out of the gate! Sorry that you think Cruz supporters are so special. It reveals that many are just blind followers, ready for the green Koolaid! I once supported Cruz, but when I started paying attention, I left that foal. I decided that Trump has the best chance and presents a positive message to Make America Great Again!

Vote Trump!


48 posted on 02/21/2016 4:09:29 AM PST by WVKayaker (What separates the winners from the losers is how a person reacts to each new twist of fate -D.Trump)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So who is going to drop out and make it a two man race?

Cruz with his small army of very dedicated supporters?

Of course not.

Rubio who is now the final hope of the establishment and the donor class?

Of course not.

So what does that mean? What does that mean? Let me think. Let me think.


49 posted on 02/21/2016 4:14:38 AM PST by samtheman (Elect Trump, Build Wall. End Censorship.)
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To: Enlightened1
Did Rubio even win any delegates?

South Carolina is a winner-take-all state. Current GOP delegate count (psst, National Review doesn't want you to see this):

Trump 61
Cruz 11
Rubio 10
Kasich 5
Carson 3
50 posted on 02/21/2016 4:14:53 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Jedidah

“Cruz should drop out and support Rubio in exchange for Scalia’s seat. He’s qualified, and it would be a patriotic thing to take Trump down, if we care at all about the Constitution.”

If you care about the Constitution, you would care about the natural born requirement. How can two Cuban parents engender an natural born American?


51 posted on 02/21/2016 4:15:11 AM PST by odawg
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To: goldstategop

Agreed, I think Cruz voters would lean Trump and vice versa. Also, of the three candidates still standing, Trump has best shot to draw the Dem vote in open primaries. Has any data been released on SC crossover voting?


52 posted on 02/21/2016 4:16:16 AM PST by GotMojo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This means Cruz knows he is in trouble. He called the meeting to desperately try and get Carson to come around and be a buddy because Cruz doesn’t want the Carson supporters to go to Trump when he was suppose to drop out after South Carolina. It doesn’t matter that it is only 5% to 7% of the base, actually that is huge in terms of this election. Before going to the meeting Carson already had some hard evidence Colombo style of Cruz’s nasty guy tactic involved in the dirty trick. In the meeting Cruz said “I never threatened your wife” or something, and Carson caught Cruz in another lie with what he already knew before going in the meeting. Carson presented the “fingerprint” after the lie. The meeting ended immediately after with Cruz full of foreboding hate of Carson. Carson then decided to stay in the race even if coming in last in South Carolina just to expose what a nasty guy Cruz is because now Carson is seriously concerned about the true nature of the Cruz campaign, he is now not going to let go the dirty trick or the lies involved. But it will take money for Carson to carry on and get the word out on the nasty Cruz who is Nixonian in hatreds and whose already paranoid tendencies are now sending electric pulses to his brain. Carson waits out South Carolina and ends up in a three way at 7% tie for last with Bush and Kasich. Donors to Carson actually are pleased Carson did better than expected, and after indirectly being threatened by some Colonel Nasty types in the Cruz operation they decide to continue to donate to Carson because they are so disgusted with Cruz. .Carson announces he will stay in the race after South Carolina now that he has the money which includes black pastor operations, Carson is going to dotble down on exposing Cruz as a Nasty Nixon as part of the Super Tuesday gig. Cruz is so upset, he shows up at his victory speech in S.C. after losing badly to Trump in a Trump landslide with a pasty face and with his preacher dad Rafael standing in the background like a stiff and angry statue holding the out of control adrenaline from taking over his body by clutching his arms stiffly in front of him so that he doesn’t start going to mic to call all South Carolina voters as Satan’s Hallow while looking out with pure hatred with that look to the camera, viz You will all burn in hell. Carson continues on, but when he does drop out every last one of his supporters will go to Donald Trump, the honorable un-nasty guy.

National Review has been wrong about everything because they live in the closet that Cruz and Carson never met in but was the original closet Cruz had planted the listening and recording devices in ahead of time, but Carson wasn’t so stupid to walk into a closet as planned by Cruz.


53 posted on 02/21/2016 4:17:10 AM PST by ShivaFan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Not voting for trump.. he is a progessive. Guess I will write in.. maybe snoopy this time. Trump will be a continuation of Obama American Idol Presidency. Rock parties and beer summits.. single payor and I can’t even imagine.. may his lib sister as a supreme.


54 posted on 02/21/2016 4:17:45 AM PST by momincombatboots (Trump... The only Democrat who can win. Well played democrats. Mr single payer 2000!? Trump)
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To: momincombatboots
Not voting for trump.. he is a progessive. Guess I will write in.. maybe snoopy this time. Trump will be a continuation of Obama American Idol Presidency. Rock parties and beer summits.. single payor and I can’t even imagine.. may his lib sister as a supreme.

Are you Glen Beck?

55 posted on 02/21/2016 4:24:21 AM PST by scooby321
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To: WVKayaker

The author of the piece is a Yale BA Harvard MPA that works at the Hoover Institute. He’s talking about Cruz and Rubio that have never led anything other than a Senate office and now Super PAC supported campaign structures. All three have accomplished little, economically speaking. Rubio can’t manage his own meager finances borrowing from his own tiny 401k, paying the tax and penalty to pay personal expenses.

The USA needs leadership, knowledge of big numbers, accomplishment. Not pillow fights and policy details that have nothing to do with saving the Nation. Everyone here looking for a heavenly pat on the head from Edmund Burke or William F. Buckley on high needs to grow up. They’re laughing at you.


56 posted on 02/21/2016 4:25:13 AM PST by major-pelham
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To: reviled downesdad

So why doesn’t Trump go after Rubio like he goes after Cruz? My theory is it’s personal for Trump with Cruz. Cruz committed the unforgivable sin; he actually beat Trump in Iowa. Trump will never forgive or forget that.


57 posted on 02/21/2016 4:25:32 AM PST by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: Enlightened1
The National Review = The Establishment Review

Perhaps. But the analysis is spot on. Rubio vs Trump would be competitive as would Cruz vs Trump.

My fear is that when Kasich and Carson finally give it up those votes are going to go disproportionately to Rubio. And I expect the Bush votes to go the same way. If so Rubio seems likely to overtake Cruz for 2nd place.

So there are really only three scenarios going forward:

1. Cruz drops out and it's Rubio vs Trump.

2. Rubio drops out and it's Cruz vs Trump.

3. Cruz and Rubio both hang on and it's Trump vs Cruz vs Rubio.

IMHO Trump wins for sure with scenario 3.

But Scenarios 1 and 2 provide no such certainty. So for most Freepers the answer is simple. Cruz needs to stay in the race and stay ahead of Rubio. That is the biggie here. If he does he has a chance to win if Rubio drops out. If Rubio or Cruz hang on in third place then Trump wins for sure.

The worrisome scenario is where Cruz drops out and we have Rubio vs Trump - One on One - Mano y Mano.

58 posted on 02/21/2016 4:26:32 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No, I’m asking your position over the last 7 years on Obama’s birther issue. What was it?


59 posted on 02/21/2016 4:26:56 AM PST by Fhios (circa 2016: Truth will be outlawed unless pre-approved.)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

I think there are still 6 delegates in South Carolina that will be going to Trump. Thus, that will take Trump to 67 Delegates.

Trump has even a bigger lead in Nevada than he did in South Carolina.

+22

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nv/nevada_republican_presidential_caucus-5336.html

and check this out with the count.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_delegate_count.html


60 posted on 02/21/2016 4:28:24 AM PST by Enlightened1
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