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LIVE 8:30 ET Republican presidential debate in Houston (2/25/16): What time, channel, live stream
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Posted on 02/25/2016 3:57:09 PM PST by Jim W N

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To: Jim 0216

To let people know where I stand: I am not on the Trump train. If he is the Republican nominee, I will likely vote third party. I am a conservative. This is not just lip service. My voting record includes voting for Pat Buchanan (twice), Alan Keyes (twice), Rick Santorum (twice), and Tom Hoefling.

Donald Trump is not a conservative. I believe that he is a skillful opportunist who isn’t rooted in conservative principles. Even if one accepts his words as truth, he is a very recent convert to conservatism—conveniently it would seem.

As I’ve stated before, one of my biggest complaints with at least some of Trump’s supporters is this: As a social conservative, I have been fighting in the Culture War for many years. Fifteen years ago, when those of like mind were trying to rally support to the conservative side, many (ahem) moderates who claimed to be Republican or even conservative were either nowhere to be found, or even worse were claiming that we were needlessly hyperventilating about the problem of the rising tide of liberal aggression in the social sphere. They assured us that they were on our side, but that there was nothing to worry about. When our fears were proven right, they said that there was nothing that we could do about it and it wasn’t that big of a deal anyway. Some even effectively took off their mask and revealed that they had all along been kindred spirits with the other side.

Now some of these same people who were AWOL in the Culture War are coming out of the woodwork and are accusing us of being part of the liberal establishment, when it was they who were complicit in the liberal establishment’s implementation of a new world social order.

Since they were noncombatants or even undercover enemies in the Culture War, I am apprehensive about making peace with them now. Those of us who have been fighting the Culture Wars and other political battles while most Trump supporters were sitting on their rears shouldn’t expect us to easily rally to their banner today.

I am amazed at the almost religious fervor among Trump supporters. If elected, I hope that he will be a great President. But, if I were a gambling man, I would bet strongly against it. I would also wager that most of those supporting him now will eventually be among his greatest critics.

Those who support the lesser of two evils are still complicit in evil.


41 posted on 02/25/2016 4:57:45 PM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands (Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
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To: Red Steel

Have we had enough debates? What more do we have to learn with the snarky gotcha questions? What does answering liberal questions have to do with being President?

Pray America wakes


42 posted on 02/25/2016 4:58:01 PM PST by bray (Trump/Palin 2016)
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To: Jim 0216
Thanks for the thread
bkmk
43 posted on 02/25/2016 4:58:17 PM PST by novemberslady
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To: samtheman

How many changed their votes from Trump to Rubio?


44 posted on 02/25/2016 4:59:24 PM PST by bray (Trump/Palin 2016)
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To: Beatthedrum
The GOP knows this may be the last time they get to stop him. The debate will be structured to make Rubio look the best.>

They just added ANOTHER debate - in Salt Lake on Mar. 21. Gonna be stacked with Cabana Boy supporters. If you're in Utah, you can request tickets here.
45 posted on 02/25/2016 4:59:39 PM PST by frankenMonkey
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
I do hope the RINOs and Johnny-Come-Lately "Conservatives" get their butts completely kicked in this debate tonight, on the facts and on the Constitution.

Who else, which other Freepers out there, is with me??

46 posted on 02/25/2016 5:00:34 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Pro-Constitution. Pro-Life. Pro-Land Right. Pro-Civility & Manners. B4 anything or any candidate.)
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To: Beatthedrum

Well, Trump has said repeatedly he doesn’t care and feels like he comes out of these circus events ahead. I think he’s right. If Trump bailed out of these nonsensical shows and began his own REAL debate format, I think many of the others would follow.


47 posted on 02/25/2016 5:01:00 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

RUBIO must have offered the VP slot to Romney!!


48 posted on 02/25/2016 5:01:32 PM PST by acoulterfan
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To: luv2ndamend

Twitter it


49 posted on 02/25/2016 5:02:21 PM PST by samtheman (Vote Trump)
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To: TomGuy

it’s a CNN Debate and Wolf Blitzer is the moderator.


50 posted on 02/25/2016 5:02:48 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: novemberslady

You’re welcome November’s Lady.

:)


51 posted on 02/25/2016 5:02:58 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

If there is going to be massive audience participation I may have to turn this off.


52 posted on 02/25/2016 5:03:19 PM PST by acoulterfan
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

It helps to accept that nothing this side of Heaven is perfect.


53 posted on 02/25/2016 5:04:42 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: acoulterfan

I would hope the Cooper would keep the audience under some sort of control thru this. We will see; not holding my breath.


54 posted on 02/25/2016 5:06:06 PM PST by acoulterfan
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To: okie01

Ridiculous. You dont read; dont listen.


55 posted on 02/25/2016 5:06:46 PM PST by samtheman (Vote Trump)
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To: acoulterfan

I’ve got U.S. vs. Chile in Americas Rugby Championship on ESPN2.

:)


56 posted on 02/25/2016 5:07:39 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: acoulterfan

I meant hope that Blitzer keeps control of the audience, not Cooper.


57 posted on 02/25/2016 5:07:43 PM PST by acoulterfan
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To: bray

Good one. I forgot about that.


58 posted on 02/25/2016 5:08:19 PM PST by samtheman (Vote Trump)
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To: Jim 0216

WHY is Telemundo moderating??????

This is so rigged tonight. It is do or die for the Establishment. You can bet the whole Audience is Liberal OR Republican Establishment.


59 posted on 02/25/2016 5:10:00 PM PST by acoulterfan
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To: acoulterfan

Fugeddabouddit - U.S. 64 -0.

U.S. looking GOOD.


60 posted on 02/25/2016 5:10:10 PM PST by Jim W N
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