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--the usual--from the Bloomberg propaganda group--
1 posted on 03/10/2016 6:02:00 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

So some talking head in Chicago thinks that people in West Virginia don’t know how to handle guns?Seriously?


2 posted on 03/10/2016 6:04:47 AM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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I sort of agree with this. I see far too many idiots that have little to no safety training. I was drilled early on about firearms safety, at the time I thought it was over the top, but now I see the wisdom in my fathers lectures...


3 posted on 03/10/2016 6:05:29 AM PST by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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4 posted on 03/10/2016 6:05:36 AM PST by Donglalinger
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Same old, tired, worn out demagoguery. Blood in the streets, gunfights over parking spaces and fender benders, ad nauseum.


5 posted on 03/10/2016 6:08:02 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Liberals are the Taliban of America, trying to tear down any symbol that they don't like.)
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Armed private citizens, trained or not, are less dangerous than armed criminals with no opposition.


6 posted on 03/10/2016 6:09:31 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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Not nearly as dangerous as walking in parts of D.C., Chicago, New York, Detroit, L.A., etc. without one...


8 posted on 03/10/2016 6:10:27 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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whether one agrees with mandatory training or not, common sense says training and range time are key.


10 posted on 03/10/2016 6:11:04 AM PST by Palio di Siena
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Toting a stupid president without a brain is worse...and we still have a few months left worring about that cretin.


12 posted on 03/10/2016 6:12:10 AM PST by Da Coyote
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More “blood in the streets” rhetoric that’s not supported by any facts. Several states have enacted permitless concealed carry and haven’t had these problems. Apparently the newspaper feels that Chicago residents aren’t as smart as those from other areas.


13 posted on 03/10/2016 6:12:59 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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Part of the article talks about a study of 77 people in Montgomery County Maryland in a simulator and the armed citizen is killed by a carjacker or armed robber.

What this doesn’t tell/show is that the other party (the perp) is trained and knows they are not going to die because it is a simulator. Most criminals have never had a victim pull a gun on them, are not trained and generally don’t want to die.

Though not the ideal situation to not have significant training, is being an unarmed victim better?


14 posted on 03/10/2016 6:13:28 AM PST by gunnut
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I saw an FBI report several years ago about first shot hit rate of thugs compared to cops.

Thugs hit rate was above 75%, cop rate was under 30%.

Wonder who does thug gun training, they should be the ones conducting firearms training.


16 posted on 03/10/2016 6:14:16 AM PST by wrench
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Bloomburg and his toads wasted a LOT of money here. It didn’t work.


17 posted on 03/10/2016 6:19:33 AM PST by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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A) The Chicago Sun Times can suck it.
B) These antigun pieces convince no one and only increase the pro-freedom resolve.
C) The Chicago Sun Times can suck it.
D) Michael Bloomberg (as close to being a James Bond villain as you can be without being George Soros) can suck it.
E) The Chicago Sun Times can suck it.


19 posted on 03/10/2016 6:24:21 AM PST by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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Garbage. No stats to back this up. Barring the very rare exception, concealed carriers are overwhelmingly safe and law-abiding whether they have a permission slip from the government or not. Besides, driver’s ed and licensing doesn’t prevent ~50K annual motor vehicle deaths.


25 posted on 03/10/2016 6:35:53 AM PST by barefoot_hiker (Any)
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Uh, the “United States Concealed Carry Association” sells insurance to concealed carry license holders. I “think” they may just have an ax to grind monetarily here.


27 posted on 03/10/2016 6:43:55 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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Training is always a good thing but is not and must not be a prerequesite to keeping and bearing arms. Personally, I would institute mandatory firearms training in all K through 12 schools in the U.S. along with mandatory instruction on the Constitution, but not as a requirement to own or carry a gun.


30 posted on 03/10/2016 6:55:38 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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yep...most of the thugs in Chicago have no firearms training, which is WHY we need to be packing, to defend ourselves.


31 posted on 03/10/2016 7:06:34 AM PST by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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Seeing how trained police officers can make mistakes..... is a logic fallacy known as a straw man.

The VAST majority of law enforcement officers have very little training annually and often only have to qualify vs paper targets.


32 posted on 03/10/2016 7:31:52 AM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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IF WE LET UNTRAINED CIVILIANS CARRY GUNS IT'S GONNA BE WORSE THAN THE WILD WEST AND WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!!!

Just look at the complete carnage in Vermont, Arizona, Alaska, Texas,...

33 posted on 03/10/2016 7:38:39 AM PST by Gritty (Syrians aren't Jews fleeing Nazi Holocaust but Nazis relocating from a bombed out Berlin-DGreenfield)
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Notice how “hidden” is a dog-whistle word to bias the reader. What, do we think the Sun Times would be in favor of open carry? No, they just stick the word “hidden” in there to load their article with emotion.


35 posted on 03/10/2016 7:52:59 AM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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