Posted on 03/13/2016 11:52:28 AM PDT by Enlightened1
Sunday on ABC’s “This Week,” while discussing the recent protests and violence at Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s rallies, Sen. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) said Trump was “encouraging people to violence” and pointed to an instance where he said to “punch that guy in the face” as his proof.
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No, you’re right. It isn’t possible.
See, it kicks as hard as it shoots.
Some Trump supporters want someone who’ll “tell it like it is”, will not hold back, “has the balls to fight”, etc.
There’s a key part of that maybe they’re missing: A fight includes two sides. Yep, Trump can say whatever he damned well wants to. But anyone else can, too. Trump can do whatever he damned well wants to. But anyone else can, too. If Trump wants to escalate it to the point where a disrupter gets a punch in the face, the puncher might need to recognize that the punchee might have something to give back.
Yep, Trump can call Cruz a “liar”, or someone that “no one likes”, or whatever.
But Cruz has just as much right to say what he likes about Trump.
I hate this philosophy of “consequence-free” dialogue or action.
Yes, you have a right to say/do what you like.
But by golly, you get to experience anyone else’s freedom right back.
And I’m hoping you’ll (not you, but the actor) be just as appreciative of their right as you are of yours.
Matter of fact, it’d be nice if you’d applaud them. That is, if you really believe it.
Clowns? Reagan would never encourage violent counter-social protest.
Cruz, and most of the GOPe as well as the media, are too young to remember the years from LBJ to Ronald Reagan, Berkely, Kent State, etc., where there were paid tireless communist “community activists” agitating the young, particularly college students, stirring the pot, making all sorts of trouble. LBJ decided not to run again because of them, when Nixon had all but won the Vietnam war, this 5th column in our country along with their accomplices in the media, not to mention opportunistic democrats in congress, destroyed Nixon, supposedly it was over Watergate, but it was not really, it was because Nixon, for all of his failings, was a strong anti-communist and staunchly pro-American (as was LJB to his credit.) And had won the war in Vietnam. These people intended to make sure the war was lost in Paris.
These people were not alive when the “Symbionese Liberation Army” kidnapped Patti Hearst, they do not know about the Chicago Riots at the democrat convention in 1967, or how these agitators hounded both Hubert Humphrey and Richard Nixon. The name, S. I. Hayakawa, would draw a blank stare from them.
What happened in Chicago (again!!!!) is not new, this is what happens when a strong man (or woman) emerges on the scene to try to put our country back to rights, to stop this trend toward socialism/communism and godless immorality.
I remember going to Reagan rally in California, it was huge, thousands of people, and perhaps 50-150 of those agitators were their painted faces, hippie clothes, and great big anti-American, anti-Reagan signs. And the media of course, when they covered those Reagan (Trump-size) rallies did not show the huge crowds, all they showed were those crazy agitators.
I remember standing in that crowd next to a group of them, lining up to raise their banner. The people around them, knowing that is what the TV cameras would show on the evening news, grabbed that banner and prevented it from being raised. And others started screaming at those protesters, to wash their faces and go get a job. Somebody had a cup of soda in his (or her hand) and threw it on them, and then other people started doing the same including their chicken salad as well (the local Rep party was selling chicken salad and soda as a fund raiser, it was very good chicken salad, and I was not going to waste mine on those idiot protectors.) Those protesters just stood there, too scared to do anything, thank goodness. I think if they had not shut up, there were people so fed up with this nonsense they might have hurt them.
So don’t tell me that Donald Trump is responsible for this. I know better. Ronald Reagan had a very pleasant personality, he would never have condoned what happened to those protesters in our little cluster of that crowd if he knew about it; he did not most certainly did not foster that environment, nor did he start it.
But that anger, that pent up violence came from the people who are fed up these professional agitators who have been doing their level best to destroy this country, and all the free countries of the world, for most of the 20th century!
But after all Ted Cruz is a Canadian, so why would he be expected to know this?
If I'm not mistaken, and I may be, he has not stated such when a protester was peaceful.
You'd accuse him of it after listening to his remarks, because that's how foolish you people are.
The concern about Trump encouraging violence began before the Chicago riot. I don’t blame Trump for Chicago, I do blame Trump for creating an environment where one of his supporters sucker punched a protestor in the face as he was being led out of a Trump event. I don’t like the level of violence and hate that I have seen with some Trump supporters and I don’t like the way that Trump encourages it.
Oh look! Another lie by Ted Cruz! I’m surprised (not very) that the media shill didn’t jump all over him about this one. Gosh, it’s almost as if they’re on the same side.
Donald Trump On Protester: “I’d Like To Punch Him In The Face”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3400569/posts
Donald Trump on Protester: ‘I’d Like to Punch Him in the Face’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3400617/post
Trump said, there’s a report that some is going to try to throw tomatoes tonight.
If you see someone doing that, clobber them.
Now every anti-Trump knuckle dragger is repeating only the part about clobbering anti-Trump people.
We even have FReepers doing it.
Folks sure don’t mind being played by the Left.
- Trump gets attacked by the media, the GOPe, and Dems; he returns fire. He never apologizes or backs down.
- Trump encourages his supporters to fight back.
- - - Disruptions at Trump's events are not tolerated. Contrast this to the Left disrupting Bush's speeches, shoes thrown at Bush, Cindy Sheehan sitting on his property, etc.
We CANNOT be civil and do things the old way anymore. We must fight the Left back with fire.
Trump didn’t cause them to attack, but the problem with his irresponsible rhetoric is that it deprived him of unified support against them. People on FR have been cheering about the hostile, verbally and occasionally physically violent environment at his rallies, but they should realize that this gives the left an excuse and also drives away supporters.
This is particularly true since many of the verbal and even physical attacks of Trump and his followers were not against raving leftists, but against legitimate GOP rivals and their supporters or simply people who were suspected of not supporting him 100% - or even against members of the press who were just covering the event. This does not make friends and influence people.
What he needs to do is knock off the provocative, violent rhetoric (which I see he has not done) and just go through the normal legal procedures. I was at several rallies for GWB in Florida where there were disruptors, and it was handled simply by giving a clear statement at the start - no campaign literature, slogans or clothing from any other campaign or opposing party; this is a private event and we reserve the right to expel people who do not abide by these rules; and the hiring of a bunch of off-duty cops to keep order. Also, people were asked to open their jackets or overcoats at the door (to show they were not wrapping themselves in a banner or, for that matter, armed) and the second time around had to pass through metal detectors. And this was years ago.
My question is how these people even got into the event to begin with - it’s obviously not well organized if that many people can flood the venue. So possibly Trump wanted this, thinking it would get him support, or possibly he has a lousy team in charge of these events.
You can keep bleating about the “sucker punch” till the cows come home, but a rational person does not tie that incident to the specious narrative that has been put forth about the fantasy of Mr. Trump “fostering” an environment of violence.
You can keep on repeating it, but that does not make it true.
The Left doesn't need an excuse, they've been doing it for years, and it's about damned time they get called on it.
So if a leftist organization is advocating violence, I have a right to just go on in there and punch people around?
I know this all seems strange to some around here because Trump is doing something GOP candidates haven’t done in years: Fighting back.
Hey Cruz, how many Trump supporters have rushed Bernie or Hillary? It's the BLM (supported by Obama), MoveOn.org, etc.
Disgusting!
The radical positions is to ask people to punch protestors in the face.
Trump has taken on all sorts of radical leftist positions. He blamed George @ for 9/11. He said George W Bush lied us into war. He has openly said “this is not a republican position but...” on issues. He has flip flopped all over the place. Yet you blame Cruz for taking a leftist position because Cruz thinks it is wrong to ask rally goers to punch dissenters in the face?
Trump is unfit for high office. I will never support him.
I would have no problem with Trump using his security to kick protestors out of his rally and even with him filing charges against them for trespass. What I have a problem with is him encouraging physical violence against protestors. The protestor who was sucker punched was not attacking anyone, he was being led out by security and a Trump supporter punched him for no reason other than hate. The level of hate and fear that Trump is stirring up is toxic and it scares me to death - we are witnessing the rise of an American fascism.
They aren’t going to listen. They have thier finders in their ears and they are yelling “trump, trump, trump, trump” too loudly to hear, much less consider that words have power. When a leader makes a suggestion followers often confuse it with a directive and consent.
GOPe: Give Soros veto power over candidate messaging.
Geez!
What a bunch of idiot ninnies.
Trump has loose lips. He was not encouraging violence, but that will be the MSM meme. He is a moderate Democrat they cannot control or predict.
Cruz is not siding with Bill Ayers. He is a constitutional conservative who could do a better job at playing politics. He has my vote, but if Trump wins, he gets it.
It’s time to grow up out there. I can’t prescribe medicine for hysteria.
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