Posted on 03/16/2016 12:25:38 PM PDT by ifinnegan
Should Cruz drop out?
I want to throw that question out in a thread for discussion.
I say yes.
Yes because the RNC strategy is to run out the clock and hit the convention without a winner.
They think splitting the vote is their best strategy to dilute Trump's delegate count over the rest of the primary.
I say let the RNC really have it their way and make the rest of the primaries be a referendum on Trump or the RNC.
Their man Kasich vs Trump, one on one.
No one can say that is not fair and clear.
That’s a thought. A nasty man in some ways but like Biden, assination insurance.
I suppose, come November, i can write in Cruz...
Yeah, that’s my thought too.
Rove and the GOPe keeping Kasich in is the opposite of propping Cruz up. There is only one reason for Kasich to stay in now and that is to prevent Cruz from defeating Trump. Trump will win many states with 40% as long as he has 2 opponents splitting the vote, states he would otherwise lose, and which are essentially almost all winner-take-all from now on.
Yes, Cruz should drop out asap and support fellow outsider Trump. There is no way Cruz can surpass Trump in total delegates and votes. Trump will smash Kasich and show how weak the GOPe is.
Both Cruz and Kasich should drop out. Neither can win and Trump has all the momentum.
Trump had more votes in Florida than Rubio and Cruz combined, and it was a closed primary. Thus your hypothesis is disproved.
Only if Trump makes him his running mate.
No, Cruz isn’t the leader right now due to the wide field.
Interesting idea.
My guess is RNC hates Cruz more than Trump, so Kasich would not do that.
Cruz won’t drop out.
Kasich is the one who should drop out. He has zero mathematical possibility of winning. He needs 111% of the remaining delegates. That, obviously, is impossible.
Yes, immediately.
No, it won’t be Kasich vs Trump if Cruz drops out. AS IT STANDS, Kasich has no hope of reaching the 8 states he needs to qualify. IF CRUZ DROPS OUT, he just might (although I doubt it).
Also, if Cruz drops out, it becomes plausible that the delegates might revisit Rule 40C, which would prevent someone like Kasich from being considered. That could be done only if a supermajority of delegates approves. I doubt Cruz would approve, but he doesn’t pick his own delegates; the RNC does. But if Trump is out, although I doubt it, the no-longer-bound Cruz delegates COULD join with Kasich, Rubio and other unbound delegates to screw Trump.
Cruz could beat Trump one-on-one in many states across the country. Kasich has no hope of doing that.
So if it goes to a contested convention, Cruz can win, but he needn’t fear Kasich winning.
For those who are still cherishing and yearning for the ticket of Trump/Cruz, I have but one history lesson for all of your to look up....JEFFERSON & BURR. It is THIS president & V.P which made having a two party system more then necessary.
Often political parties will shove a veep down the nominee's throat. OTOH, the one shoved brings with him a state or region that otherwise would be difficult for the nominee to win and/or some much needed "gravitas". Sometimes it sort of works; mostly it doesn't work out well at all.
Like it or not, Cruz is a still wet behind the ears pol. He has no area of expertise that Trump couldn't easily find in someone else.
He doesn't bring Trump a state or region he couldn't win in the general election on his own.
Would such a coupling bring "peace" to FR? For some, yes; for the Cruz supporting diehards...NO.
Kasich is the GOPE's "DOG IN THE MANGER"/"SPOILER"!
Neither he nor Cruz can win the 1237 needed to be the nominee, nor even come close to that number.
Trump can get to the 1237; it's not an easy walk, but it's a lot "easier" than some are attempting to lead the populace to believe.
And as another history lesson....in recent decades, whichever candidate had the highest delegates was the GOP nominee. These new requirements ( number of states need to win outright etc. ) have been made as recently as 4 years ago; re the state requirement.
Maybe not but it seems that when Cruz’s closest most respected Senate colleague Jeff Session endorses Trump instead, your threats of what Cruz would do in the Senate ring pretty hollow. I guess he could fillibuster by himself.
I’m in the odd position of liking Trump and liking Cruz, albeit for different reasons.
I would be very happy if the two of them were to bury the hatchet and join forces to stop Hillary.
Cruz brings nothing to that ticket. Texas will go for the Republican and Cruz will bring zero value to winning any swing state, which he has done notably pathetic in.
That is the bottom line ... Cruz brings NOTHING to a Trump/Cruz ticket.
“Trump will smash Kasich and show how weak the GOPe is.”
Yes. That’s my thinking.
And if Kasich beat Trump it would show the RNC strength.
They are hiding behind Cruz as it stands.
Do you think this establishment Senate would actually confirm Cruz to the Supreme Court? They’d love to stick it to both Donald and Ted.
Ted VP doesn’t need any other confirmations????? Be a good ticket.
HECK NO.
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