Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Justice Thomas Asks: Why Are Second Amendment Rights So Easily Taken Away?
Forbes ^ | March 23, 2016 | George Leef

Posted on 03/23/2016 9:35:19 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas is known for his silence during oral arguments. He has explained that he doesn’t think he learns much about a case that hasn’t already been covered in the briefs for the contending parties plus the numerous amicus briefs that explore many more aspects of the case. He prefers to listen and allow the lawyers to argue without further interruption.

Justice Thomas had not asked a question during oral arguments since 2006 when, during the arguments in Voisine v. United States on February 29, he posed a question to the government’s counsel, Assistant to the Solicitor General Ilana Eisenstein.

Immediately, the anti-Thomas press, always eager to portray the justice as a clueless incompetent (after all, he rejects most of the leftist notions about the role of government), indulged in nasty headlines such as “It Speaks!” Imagine the furor if a leftist icon were called “it.”

Exactly what is Voisine about and what did Justice Thomas ask?

The case deals with a seemingly dry question of statutory interpretation: Does a misdemeanor crime that requires only a showing of recklessness qualify as a crime of domestic violence under 18 U.S. Code Sections 921 (a)(33)(A) and 922 (g)(9)?

That latter part of the U.S. criminal code is known at the Domestic Violence Offender Gun Ban, a.k.a the Lautenberg Amendment, signed into law in 1996 by President Clinton. It makes it a felony for anyone who has been convicted of a domestic violence misdemeanor ever to have anything to do with firearms: shipping or transporting them, owning or using them, even possessing ammunition.

One strike and you’re out under this law.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: banglist; clarencethomas; scotus
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

1 posted on 03/23/2016 9:35:19 AM PDT by reaganaut1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

Because powers know that an unarmed populace is controllable. Take away the 2nd and all other amendments fall soon after. The 2nd is the most important IMO.


2 posted on 03/23/2016 9:38:41 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1
THEY'RE NOT TAKEN AWAY ...

THEY'RE LEGISLATED AGAINST !

3 posted on 03/23/2016 9:40:44 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Resolute Conservative
Take away the 2nd and all other amendments fall soon after. the Tree of Liberty promptly gets thoroughly saturated!

I'm sure this is what you meant.

4 posted on 03/23/2016 9:44:03 AM PDT by PROCON
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

Justice Thomas is one of the few rational Justices on the Court. People like Kagan and Sotomayer and Roberts and Kennedy and Ginsberg couldn’t think on a higher plane than one of Hitler’s Brownshirts. They are all programmed and controlled-—pure evil and all should be impeached.


5 posted on 03/23/2016 9:48:53 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1
"Immediately, the anti-Thomas press, always eager to portray the justice as a clueless incompetent"

What???? Thomas writes the tightest, best reasoned and most concise opinions of anyone on the Court.

6 posted on 03/23/2016 9:50:36 AM PDT by circlecity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PROCON

If you mean a slaughter could come, I think you’re right.

Regimes that gun-grab inevitably find that this makes crime worse, not better, but the dirty little secret is that they don’t really care that much about the crime. In fact they like the way the crime makes the people dependent on the officials.


7 posted on 03/23/2016 9:52:26 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1
The case deals with a seemingly dry question of statutory interpretation: Does a misdemeanor crime that requires only a showing of recklessness qualify as a crime of domestic violence under 18 U.S. Code Sections 921 (a)(33)(A) and 922 (g)(9)? That latter part of the U.S. criminal code is known at the Domestic Violence Offender Gun Ban, a.k.a the Lautenberg Amendment, signed into law in 1996 by President Clinton. It makes it a felony for anyone who has been convicted of a domestic violence misdemeanor ever to have anything to do with firearms: shipping or transporting them, owning or using them, even possessing ammunition. One strike and you’re out under this law.

HUGE implications here.

8 posted on 03/23/2016 9:54:38 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Resolute Conservative

America has a great record.

How is it we might allow evil to digress and void what has worked for nearly 2000 years?

WAKE UP AMERICA !!!

STAND TALL

STAND STRONG!

Praise God FROM WHOM ALL BLESSINGS FLOW ... AMEN!


9 posted on 03/23/2016 9:55:11 AM PDT by midlander
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: circlecity

But he’s not a Lefty, and therefore must be stupid, or at least ignorant of the so-called “facts”.


10 posted on 03/23/2016 9:56:51 AM PDT by Pecos (What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

The left keeps claiming that abortion and Obamacare are “settled law”, therefore no one should question either one. The 2nd amendment is also settled law.


11 posted on 03/23/2016 9:56:59 AM PDT by GreenHornet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1; All
"That latter part of the U.S. criminal code is known at the Domestic Violence Offender Gun Ban, a.k.a the Lautenberg Amendment, signed into law in 1996 by President Clinton."

In addition to 2nd Amendment problems with this code, note that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to police domestic violence issues.

12 posted on 03/23/2016 9:59:16 AM PDT by Amendment10
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Resolute Conservative

It will simply just force folks to hid their guns, to make it much more easy to do so.


13 posted on 03/23/2016 10:01:29 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

Because, your honor, once they’ve eviscerated the Second Amendment they can get serious about eviscerating the First Amendment.


14 posted on 03/23/2016 10:08:30 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama - the AIDS virus for the American body politic.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

Progressives have subverted the Constitution to the point where the population thinks it’s OK to remove guns from private hands because Progressives and their minions are afraid of an armed populace.

IMHO


15 posted on 03/23/2016 10:13:34 AM PDT by ripley
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Amendment10

Why don’t we suspend the first amendment for people convicted of a misdemeanor?


16 posted on 03/23/2016 10:16:36 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Resolute Conservative

Free men have the right to bear arms, slaves do not.


17 posted on 03/23/2016 10:22:06 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

President Trump needs to pack the court with 13 rabid pro-2nd amendment SCOTUS justices. There is no limit on the number of justices SCOTUS is to have mentioned in the Constitution. Used to be six.


18 posted on 03/23/2016 10:45:45 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1
Why Are Second Amendment Rights So Easily Taken Away?

My question goes a step further.

How can the government take away a right the government didn't create?

Would the question; is the right inalienable or alienable pivot on the meaning of the word "is"?

Is is is or is is ain't?
Yes is is with one constraint:
Is is never is becuz
Once you've said is is is wuz!

19 posted on 03/23/2016 10:50:53 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1
My Prediction: The court will completely disregard the issues Justice Thomas raised.

If you read the transcript, after Justice Thomas' questions, Justice Breyer lays out how they'll avoid the entire issue...

So, in order to avoid having to actually follow the Constitution, they'll punt, and force someone to spend the years that it takes to get yet another case to the court.

20 posted on 03/23/2016 10:57:56 AM PDT by zeugma (Vote Cruz!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson