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N.J. judge hears challenges to Cruz eligibility
philly.com ^ | Maddie Hanna

Posted on 04/11/2016 12:20:43 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

A New Jersey administrative law judge on Monday heard two challenges to GOP presidential candidate Ted Cruz's eligibility to appear on the New Jersey ballot, based upon the Texas senator's birthplace in Canada.

The judge, Jeff Masin, didn't decide the challenges to Cruz's eligibility to appear on the June 7 primary ballot, but said he would issue a decision Tuesday. The decision is expected to be reviewed by Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno, who is New Jersey's secretary of state.

One of the challenges was brought by three South Jersey citizens, and the other by a law professor who lives in Maryland and is running for president as a write-in candidate in New Jersey. Both parties argued that because Cruz was born in Canada, he is not a natural-born citizen, making him ineligible for the presidency.

Cruz's mother was born in Delaware, while his father was born in Cuba. The senator released his birth certificate in 2013.

Shalom Stone, a New Jersey attorney representing Cruz, argued that the citizens - Fernando Powers of Blackwood, Donna Ward of Mantua, and Bruce Stom of Winslow Township - and Prof. Victor Williams didn't have standing to challenge Cruz's candidacy. Stone also said the state didn't have authority to decide the question.

As for "natural-born citizen," Stone said the words in the U.S. Constitution "have meaning given to them by English common law" at the time of their adoption. He directed Masin to his brief for cases supporting Cruz's position.

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: birther; birthers; cruz; desperatedonald; repositorycruz; trump
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Yeah, and kudo’s to Cruz’s dad!

A real American patriot who loves this country and has been speaking out against the Left for years!

Unlike Donald Small Hands.


181 posted on 04/11/2016 3:57:34 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: eastforker

Wrong. What if china decides that trump is a citizen and makes him a governor of a province? Trump can denounce it but china could still consider him a citizen. Does that mean he’s no longer US NBC?


182 posted on 04/11/2016 3:57:50 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: little jeremiah

Ms Cruz would have become a citizen 1 year after Raphael.

In addition to those people who became Canadian citizens upon the coming into force of the Act (popularly known as the “1947 Act” due to the year it came into force), citizenship afterwards was generally acquired as follows:
....
grant of citizenship to a foreign woman married to a Canadian man after one year’s residence as a landed immigrant....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Canadian_nationality_law


183 posted on 04/11/2016 3:57:57 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: Enduro Guy

To politely cleave your theory, under it, Ronald Reagan could never have been President of the US.

His mother Nellie Wilson Reagan was the daughter of a woman, Mary Ann Elsey Wilson, born in Surrey, England.

Nellie was born in Fulton, Illinois.

But since, by your position, Natural Born Citizenship requires two American citizen parents, Nellie Wilson (Reagan) would not have been a citizen since her mother was born in England.

And since, again by your definition, NBC requires two American citizen parents, Ronald Reagan could not be a NBC, because, again by your definition, his mother was not a citizen!

If we were to trace all of us back far enough, by your definition, none of us would be citizens!


184 posted on 04/11/2016 4:00:52 PM PDT by Strac6 (Remember, the Primaries are shortlived. ALL THAT MATTERS IS THE NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTION)
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To: BillM
Rafael Cruz has stated that he became a Canadian citizen and that he did not naturalize as an American for many years after they returned to the US in 1974, becoming an American citizen in 2005, 48 years after leaving Cuba. This one of the many published articles where he describes his travels and citizenships in his own words.

How Ted Cruz's Father Shaped His Views On Immigration

185 posted on 04/11/2016 4:03:54 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: Bob434

Interesting — and consistent with my understanding.

Still a pointless argument, in my view, as the Titanic slowly sinks beneath the waves.


186 posted on 04/11/2016 4:03:59 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: for-q-clinton

But Trump was not born in China, he is a NBC of the USA. OTOH, Cruz was born in Canada to a father that was a Canadian Citizen at the time and that makes him, Cruz, a NBC of Canada.


187 posted on 04/11/2016 4:04:04 PM PDT by eastforker (The only time you can be satisfied is when your all Trump.)
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To: 4Zoltan

No apparently when her husband naturalized she was eligable in 1 year.


188 posted on 04/11/2016 4:05:30 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: Elpasser

The United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit has specifically recognized in a recent
case that one may be a “natural born” citizen of the United Sates in two ways: either by being
born in the United States, or by being born abroad of at least one citizen-parent who has met the
residency requirement.

In
United States v. Carlos Jesus Marguet-Pillado
, a case dealing with the
propriety of an appeal based on requested jury instructions not given, the court stated:
No one disputes that Marguet-Pillado’s requested instruction was “an accurate statement of
the law,” in that it correctly stated the two circumstances in which an individual born in 1968
is a natural born United States citizen: (1) that the person was born in the United States or (2)
born outside the United States to a biologically
-related United States citizen parent who met
certain residency requirements.
16

From same link as above


189 posted on 04/11/2016 4:06:44 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Strac6

Nellie was born in Ill. She was a citizen even if her mother was English. Maybe Nellie was not a NBC but a citizen none the less. Parents must be citizens, no requirement for them to be NBC.


190 posted on 04/11/2016 4:08:23 PM PDT by eastforker (The only time you can be satisfied is when your all Trump.)
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To: Elpasser
A real American patriot who loves this country and has been speaking out against the Left for years!

Please direct me to all the articles to support your assertion!

191 posted on 04/11/2016 4:08:42 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: RoosterRedux

I though Cruz’s mother gave up her citizenship? Can someone please tell me if she did or not


192 posted on 04/11/2016 4:09:39 PM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: Elpasser

That’s why they were Grandfathered in at the time of the adoption of the Constitution. There were no 35 year old natural born citizens until 35 years after the adoption of the Constitution.


193 posted on 04/11/2016 4:10:34 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: 4Zoltan

I do not care about this enough to look up too much stuff.
https://www.uscitizenship.info/citizenship-library-dual.htm
The official Canadian position on dual citizenship reads in part:
Unlike the law in effect in Canada up to 1977, the present Citizenship Act allows a Canadian citizen to acquire foreign nationality without automatically losing Canadian citizenship. Since February 15, 1977, a Canadian citizen may retain Canadian citizenship, unless he or she voluntarily applies to renounce it and the application is approved by a citizenship judge. The present Act thus makes it possible to have two or more citizenships and allegiances at the same time for an indefinite period. Also, both the US and Canada require specific acts to give up citizenship. Canada requires that someone who wants to give up their Canadian citizenship has to go to a Canadian embassy or consulate and sign a special form in the presence of Canadian officials. The US requires that “A person wishing to renounce his or her US citizenship must voluntarily and with intent to relinquish US citizenship appear in person before a US consular or diplomatic officer, in a foreign country (normally at a US Embassy or Consulate); and sign an oath of renunciation”.


194 posted on 04/11/2016 4:11:14 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: JayGalt

When did he move to Canada? He would first need to meet the four year requirement before he could naturalize.


195 posted on 04/11/2016 4:12:18 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: dforest

Cruz Eligibility Challenge Rulings
Arkansas (Librace v Cruz) dismissed
Florida (Voeltz v Cruz) dismissed
Illinois Election Board, Cruz is eligible
Indiana Election Commission (Cruz), ruled eligible.
New Hampshire Ballot Commission, ruled eligible
New Jersey (Williams v Cruz) pending
New York (Korman & Gallo v Cruz) dismissed
Pennsylvania (Elliott v Cruz) Cruz ruled eligible
Utah (Wagner v Cruz) dismissed


196 posted on 04/11/2016 4:13:40 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Google Rafael Cruz bro’.

Here’s just one Rafael Cruz speech from 3 years ago:

https://www.bing.com/search?q=rafael+cruz+speech&go=Submit&qs=n&form=CHRDEF&pc=U316&pq=rafael+cruz+speech&sc=4-18&sp=-1&sk=&cvid=B466D266A118468A933FCAD9DA2F79C5

Before you try to demonize this man, what have YOU been doing to fight for your country?


197 posted on 04/11/2016 4:15:17 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: Elpasser

Fighting for the 2nd Amendment for the last 22+ years!


198 posted on 04/11/2016 4:16:57 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Nero Germanicus

Yep, facts are stubborn things. That’s like TEN to ZERO in Cruz’s favor.

But until The Donald says differently, won’t matter one iota to the Trumpsters!


199 posted on 04/11/2016 4:17:11 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: 2nd amendment mama

In an interview, Cruz’s dad said he worked in Canada for eight years. The family left Canada in 1974 - so he must have moved there in 1967-1968. Ted’s mom moved to Canada in 1969.

At that time, Canada required that you had to be a resident for five years before you could become a citizen. Ted was born in 1970. At the time of his birth, Ted’s dad was still a Cuban citizen, and his mom a U.S. citizen.


200 posted on 04/11/2016 4:17:47 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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