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Trump's rants risk annoying those who may decide nomination
AP ^ | 4/17/16 | THOMAS BEAUMONT and STEVE PEOPLES

Posted on 04/18/2016 2:36:38 AM PDT by markomalley

Donald Trump's relentless assault on the rules that govern how Republicans choose their nominee is coming far too late to change what even defenders acknowledge is a complicated selection system.

He seems to know it, too.

Instead, his railing against a "rigged" process appears aimed at amplifying his central message to an angry electorate: America is a mess, and only Trump can clean it up.

(Excerpt) Read more at elections.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; gope; rnc; trump
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To: XenaLee

Tead is only 37 points behind in New York.

There’s still hope.


21 posted on 04/18/2016 3:52:19 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Ted, why are you taking one for the RNC/GOPe team, and not ours? Not that we don't know.)
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To: markomalley

ROFLMAO

It’s all about the Donald.


22 posted on 04/18/2016 3:54:35 AM PDT by LurkLongley (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam-For the Greater Glory of God)
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To: LNV
Nice try at deflection, but it doesn’t work on me. You said, “... states have ‘no right’ to decide how their own primaries are run...”

Reading comprehension challenged much? I never said that.

This was my ONLY statement about that:

Uh....no. It was originally to stop outsiders from skewing their primary results by an outsider (like Ron Paul). And they have a perfect right to do that.

23 posted on 04/18/2016 3:54:38 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: DoughtyOne

I don’t expect Cruz to win NY. Not going to be surprised when he loses ‘that’ state.


24 posted on 04/18/2016 3:55:56 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: markomalley

Lol!!!


25 posted on 04/18/2016 3:57:52 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: XenaLee

Trump is at or above 50% in the New England states where the public actually gets to vote.

That’s so cool.


26 posted on 04/18/2016 3:58:08 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Ted, why are you taking one for the RNC/GOPe team, and not ours? Not that we don't know.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yeah, and if you will notice, Trump does really well in those open primary states....where Democrats can and do cross over to vote for Trump so Hillary can win in November. You’re ok with that, I take it.


27 posted on 04/18/2016 3:59:33 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: markomalley

The concern of AP is duly noted.

Not.


28 posted on 04/18/2016 3:59:58 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: XenaLee

As those of who voted for Reagan recall, we were happy to have Blue Dog Democrats crossing over to vote for Reagan.

I know Ted will never get crossover, so I feel your pain.


29 posted on 04/18/2016 4:03:26 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Ted, why are you taking one for the RNC/GOPe team, and not ours? Not that we don't know.)
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To: XenaLee

“And they have a perfect right to do that.”

No, they do not. Once again you are trying to conflate party officials with elected representatives. The former are extra-Constitutional, the latter are Constitutional.

The former has taken over the Constitutional role of the latter. Just because this corrupt system has been in place for a long time doesn’t make it any less corrupt.

It is time to re-establish a Constitutional system for deciding who gets to run for office.


30 posted on 04/18/2016 4:04:35 AM PDT by LNV (Cruz supporters would rather beat Trump than Hillary.)
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To: LNV
No, they do not. Once again you are trying to conflate party officials with elected representatives. The former are extra-Constitutional, the latter are Constitutional.

Parties are not "extra-Constitutional, unless you have a very left-wing view of the Constitution. The Constitution does not speak, at all, to how states choose their electors. That is up to them, so the primary systems established by states are perfectly consistent with the Constitution.

The real issue here is that you have a lot of people who hate the GOP and want to play by a different set of rules. So fine -- do what some disaffected Whigs and Free Soilers did, and start your own party. Or, put forth a candidate who either gets on the ballot in each state, or gets written in.

But it is juvenile as hell for a candidate to enter a primary election knowing ahead of time what the rules are, then whining because those rules are followed.

31 posted on 04/18/2016 4:24:12 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: markomalley

It is rigged and corrupt.

And Trump is toast if he doesn’t win on the first ballot.


32 posted on 04/18/2016 4:25:43 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: DoughtyOne

Speak for yourself there. I don’t care for Democrats or liberals of ‘any’ color or breed. And Reagan might have won even without those rats voting for him...but we will never know. Bottom line....I don’t trust liberals or Democrats or their motives for voting for ANY Republican, supposed or otherwise. We already know how well that worked out for the right in this country back in 2008 and 2012.


33 posted on 04/18/2016 4:27:00 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: DoughtyOne

“Trump is at or above 50% in the New England states where the public actually gets to vote.”

None of which he could actually win against either Democrat. Funny how Trump does best in the most leftist states in the country.


34 posted on 04/18/2016 4:27:38 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: LNV
It is time to re-establish a Constitutional system for deciding who gets to run for office.

No, actually...it's time for the Trump whiners to pull up their big boy pants/panties and stop acting like spoiled, bratty LOSERS. Wanting to change decades-old systems just because it didn't go your way in some states is asinine. Hell, just like the idiot left in America, it seems like Trump followers are never happy, even when they or their candidate is winning.

35 posted on 04/18/2016 4:30:51 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: LNV; XenaLee
Show me in the Constitution where it mentions political parties. The founding fathers never envisioned private clubs deciding who does and does not get to wield political power in this country.

Nor did they envision women voting ...

The standard should be getting the most citizens to participate in the election by voting. Instead it is a raw and corrupt grab for political power in backrooms.

36 posted on 04/18/2016 4:34:20 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

From George Washington’s Farewell Address:

“The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.”

“There is an opinion that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the administration of the government and serve to keep alive the spirit of liberty. This within certain limits is probably true; and in governments of a monarchical cast, patriotism may look with indulgence, if not with favor, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged.”

He was prophetic. We now have the consolidation of power into the R wing of the oligarchy and the D wing of the oligarchy, the end result of political parties who seek to keep each other in power to the exclusion of those who would make real change.


37 posted on 04/18/2016 4:37:37 AM PDT by LNV (Cruz supporters would rather beat Trump than Hillary.)
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To: XenaLee

Advocating for much-needed change to a demonstrably corrupt and unresponsive system is not whining.


38 posted on 04/18/2016 4:39:24 AM PDT by LNV (Cruz supporters would rather beat Trump than Hillary.)
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To: LNV

that is not only naive, it is irrelevant


39 posted on 04/18/2016 4:41:45 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Forgot to add, George Washington must have been a big ol’ lefty, huh?


40 posted on 04/18/2016 4:42:57 AM PDT by LNV (Cruz supporters would rather beat Trump than Hillary.)
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