Posted on 04/27/2016 10:27:56 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright
I have a message for all the Trumpsters. Your behavior and antics in the past couple of months, and the antics of your "savior", The Donald, have made my decision about who to vote for, and who NOT to vote for in November easy.
If your guy is the nominee for the Republican Party, he WILL lose in November, and YOU WILL OWN IT. Because I will NEVER vote for that statist socialist, parasitic, steaming pile of obama.
Now, I've been told that JimRob is banning anyone who states publicly that they will not vote for trump. So be it. I have enjoyed Jim's friendship for many years, and I'll be sorry to lose it, but I WILL NOT surrender my principles that easily. Herewith is an article by Herschel Smith, that encapsulates my thoughts.
I have said for a very long time to my family and others that the experience of parents having and raising children isn’t really about the children. God will handle the children as He sees fit. It’s about the parents, and there are two experiences that test your mettle more than any other: marriage and children. It’s one of God’s way of sanctifying His own, but it has the opposite affect on others.
One reason I care about the election cycle isn’t because I think we can make a difference. Oh, we can in some ways, we can’t in others. We can make a difference in the medical care situation in the country, but we can’t in the global financial system. This discussion is saved for another time. But one thing the individual vote does at one and the same time is affect the soul and show the content of the soul of the voter. It’s a deeply moral act that has eternal consequences for the one who is given stewardship of the vote.
Now let me turn for a moment to a recent commentary by Jonah Goldberg. Sometimes I disagree vehemently with him, but other times he hits on all cylinders. This day the engine was running to perfection on the dynamometer.
This week there have been some cracks in the façade. Trump’s attacks on Heidi Cruz unsettled even Ann Coulter. And his abortion remarks are still sending tremors through the granite foundations of Trump can-do-no-wrong-ism. Joe Scarborough and Breitbart’s John Nolte are talking about what a bad week he’s having and gravely warning Trump to get his act together. As Jim Geraghty has been writing, the problem with such second thoughts is the assumption that something is amiss with Trump or his campaign. This is Trump. This is his campaign. The Trump we see before us is the same Trump. It’s a bit like when Barack Obama said that the Jeremiah Wright he saw denouncing America wasn’t the man he knew. That was nonsense. Obama knew exactly who Wright was, having attended his church for 20 years. It was only when Wright’s act moved to a larger national stage that all of a sudden he became inconvenient to Obama.
The analogy isn’t perfect, of course. But the basic point is the same. The Donald Trump of the last week is the exact same Donald Trump many of us saw a year ago or five years ago. He’s always been full of sh*t. He’s always been a total ignoramus when it comes to public policy, lacking the simple sense of patriotic duty to do his homework on the issues. He’s always been a nasty and boorish cad. He’s always pretended to be a conservative while working on liberal assumptions of what conservatives want to hear.
His “punish the women” comments were of a piece with his refusal to condemn the Klan on CNN. It’s not that he wants to punish women who have abortions — I’d bet he’s paid more abortion bills than he will ever sign — it’s that he thinks that’s what pro-lifers want to hear. It’s not that he’s a Klansman or that the pillowcases at Mara Lago come with eyeholes cut out in advance. It’s that Trump thinks lots of his fans like the Klan and he wants to pander to them. I have heard first-hand stories from people who’ve worked with Trump about how he disparages women’s appearance routinely. That’s who he is. If you’re attacking him because he retweeted a bad picture of Heidi, that’s not you being principled, it’s you getting cold feet. Indeed, I am sure that the same opportunism that has caused so many supposedly principled conservatives to hitch their wagons to Trump is now causing some of them to question their choices, not because Trump has changed but because the climate might be changing around them. By all means, if Trump continues to unravel (a huge if), please abandon Trump. But don’t think for a moment that the rest of us will automatically take your word for it when you say this or that statement changed your mind about the man. He hasn’t changed, your calculations have.
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Like all demagogues, he’s using his lies as a loyalty test for his followers. He’s exploiting his popularity and abusing the devotion of his fans to force them into going along with his fictions, until they are in so deep psychologically, they have no choice but to carry on. It’s an ancient psychological tactic of authoritarians, Mafia dons, and the like: Force your followers into sharing the blame for your misdeeds so that they can’t break ranks.
Jonah is right. He thinks we want to see women who have gotten abortions in the town center in stocks and chains. He’s pandering to the social right, but he missed on this, and he missed badly. His other positions – support for the second amendment, advocacy for closed borders – can only be assumed to be pandering as well.
Not to worry, though. Just about as soon as he said it, he triangulated his position again, to something like abortion laws are already set and we have to leave it that way. Trumps views on abortion aren’t the topic here. Trump is the topic. He is a mirror in which everyone sees what he or she wants to see, its just that the mirror has to be adjusted based on the onlooker and Trump isn’t really as good a triangulator as he is made out to be.
And that brings me to the conservative voters who have already cast their votes for Trump in the primaries heretofore. Do you remember when socialized medicine was the most important thing about the Obama administration, the holy grail of the progressives? It still is.
And yet, you have jettisoned that most important piece of your world view to support a man who sees things far differently than you, who supports socialized medicine, and who has said that the only thing he would change about the current system is to allow it to cross state lines.
Trump has woven you into his deception, his lies, his evil. And when socialized medicine is codified and solidified for you, your children, and your children’s children to the tenth generation of your progeny, when you see that your seed will hate you and this generation for what has been done to the country, it will be far too late.
Open wide, and suck it down. This is what you voted for, whether in the end it’s Hillary or Trump, or some replacement for Hillary. Own it. It’s yours. The Mafia don asked you to pull the trigger and do the deed. It’s no longer about him. Now it’s about you.
Your stock keeps going up Art!
God Bless!
Trump is a force of positive energy.
His positive pro-America agenda is bringing millions of new people and vitality into politics. Some of these new people are making their way to FR.
Although Jim had expressed earlier in the year his concerns about how this primary may have a negative effect on FR, it turns out he need not worry.
For every old timer who's been zotted or self-zotted, fresh new blood is replacing them. With Neil's declaration of dropping financial support, I've seen at least three new FReepers pledging to more than make up for the loss.
I think you have me confused with someone else.
Sorry to see you do this Neil. From a FRiend.
Rabid? You want to talk rapid, let me know when Teddy has taken incoming like the following.
"Fact-checking Donald Trump is like picking up after a dog with diarrhea."
-- Stephen Hayes, Weekly Standard, on Fox News (See "A is for Ape")
"Most of them [Trump supporters] are childless single men who masturbate to anime.
They’re not real and political players. These are not people who matter in the overall
course of humanity."
-- GOP consultant Rick Wilson on MSNBC, reported January 20, 2016
You have your reasons and I’m sorry to see you go.
I only wish you hadn’t fed the beast by using inflammatory terms. Now the beast is feasting on you and your words in retribution to justify their positions and feelings.
Something that up until a couple of months ago I would have thought impossible on FR.
I’m sorry. I missed and thought I was commenting directly to our “good buddy” Neil E. Wright and ended up commenting to you instead. It was a mistake. You are a good Freeper and I apologize.
I made more money during the Obama administration than any other. That doesn't mean I want Obama in office so much as another day, and would have gladly seen him never take office. It isn't just about the money.
bfl
If, by "our" you mean Trump supporters, the answer to your question is "Yes." Think about it. Duh.
Neil,
Sorry to see you go, but don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Getting angry that the candidate you supported lost is silly, getting angry that millions upon millions of people rejected your guy is petty and stupid. I know it makes you feel better to lash out at those who did, try to lump them all into some big insulting pool of just a bunch of morons, but its not true.
Cruz was a weak candidate from the get go, he got beat, just like 16 or 17 other candidates that ran. He got beat decidedly by someone, who like it or not, had a better pulse on the electorate. You can be angry about that, but it doesn’t change anything.
Illegal immigration not even on the radar by Cruz or any of the political class... H1B? Cruz just picked a VP that is one of the more vocal proponents of it. etc etc etc.. Cruz got beat, he wrote a game plan that in another election cycle probably would have worked, and at the end of the day he got beat by someone who didn’t follow the script.
Sadly, Cruz and supporters of his like yourself, are not taking the loss as a learning opportunity and moving on, but are literally lashing out and being childish and petty and down right vindictive in their loss.
You are free to do what you like, but to castigate millions of people as just idiots because for whatever reasons they didn’t vote for your guy is just stupid.
Cruz could have had a bright future even with losing this cycle, he’s young, got plenty of years left... but unfortunately his behaviors and actions have pretty much ensured he’ll never be a serious player on the national stage again. Losses can be tough to swallow, but great folks learn from them, small folks lash out and go bitter over them.
Quite the broad brush you’re flinging around.
And thanks for the invective (caving to liberals).
I’d give a slight edge to Prince with Janice Joplin as his running mate.
Actually, it’s just that most people look at Hilary and Trump and, to quote the beast, “What difference does it make?”
So you would rather have Hillary or Bernie than Cruz? Wow.
Maybe the liberal factions of the Republican Party would rather have a criminal or socialist than a conservative.
Next Opus please be brief. Trump peeple caint read so pretty good.
I suppose that means that they get away with it.
Others say that it sets precedent.
Nothing about this unholy state of affairs will ever be settled to my satisfaction. I can only espouse the notion of going forward, and contending with the aftermath.
At some point the shooting starts, but between this day and that one, I would prefer to fix what others have broke. Fanciful notion indeed, but not as ugly as a bloodbath.
Breaking just now on The Street, Gross domestic product GDP increased a dismal 0.5 percent annual rate, the weakest since the first quarter of 2014. An indicator of a recession before we even get to November because nothing in going to change in the middle of an election cycle. We need jobs for AMERICANS and MANUFACTURING here in America to turn this around, and Carly is the face of everything that is exactly the OPPOSITE of this!
What good are crappy hourly wage jobs and the outsourcing queen Carly? We want real jobs!
STOP CRUZ CARLY!
In the end, principles matter more.
I won't be judged by the company I keep here so much as my life when I have to face the Throne of The Almighty.
Would you surrender your principles to retain your friends?
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