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{vanity} For all the Trumpsters
self (vanity) | 04/27/16 | Neil E. Wright

Posted on 04/27/2016 10:27:56 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright

I have a message for all the Trumpsters. Your behavior and antics in the past couple of months, and the antics of your "savior", The Donald, have made my decision about who to vote for, and who NOT to vote for in November easy.

If your guy is the nominee for the Republican Party, he WILL lose in November, and YOU WILL OWN IT. Because I will NEVER vote for that statist socialist, parasitic, steaming pile of obama.

Now, I've been told that JimRob is banning anyone who states publicly that they will not vote for trump. So be it. I have enjoyed Jim's friendship for many years, and I'll be sorry to lose it, but I WILL NOT surrender my principles that easily. Herewith is an article by Herschel Smith, that encapsulates my thoughts.

Trump’s Lies And Triangulation

I have said for a very long time to my family and others that the experience of parents having and raising children isn’t really about the children.  God will handle the children as He sees fit.  It’s about the parents, and there are two experiences that test your mettle more than any other: marriage and children.  It’s one of God’s way of sanctifying His own, but it has the opposite affect on others.

One reason I care about the election cycle isn’t because I think we can make a difference.  Oh, we can in some ways, we can’t in others.  We can make a difference in the medical care situation in the country, but we can’t in the global financial system.  This discussion is saved for another time.  But one thing the individual vote does at one and the same time is affect the soul and show the content of the soul of the voter.  It’s a deeply moral act that has eternal consequences for the one who is given stewardship of the vote.

Now let me turn for a moment to a recent commentary by Jonah Goldberg.  Sometimes I disagree vehemently with him, but other times he hits on all cylinders.  This day the engine was running to perfection on the dynamometer.

This week there have been some cracks in the façade. Trump’s attacks on Heidi Cruz unsettled even Ann Coulter. And his abortion remarks are still sending tremors through the granite foundations of Trump can-do-no-wrong-ism. Joe Scarborough and Breitbart’s John Nolte are talking about what a bad week he’s having and gravely warning Trump to get his act together. As Jim Geraghty has been writing, the problem with such second thoughts is the assumption that something is amiss with Trump or his campaign. This is Trump. This is his campaign. The Trump we see before us is the same Trump. It’s a bit like when Barack Obama said that the Jeremiah Wright he saw denouncing America wasn’t the man he knew. That was nonsense. Obama knew exactly who Wright was, having attended his church for 20 years. It was only when Wright’s act moved to a larger national stage that all of a sudden he became inconvenient to Obama.

The analogy isn’t perfect, of course. But the basic point is the same. The Donald Trump of the last week is the exact same Donald Trump many of us saw a year ago or five years ago. He’s always been full of sh*t. He’s always been a total ignoramus when it comes to public policy, lacking the simple sense of patriotic duty to do his homework on the issues. He’s always been a nasty and boorish cad. He’s always pretended to be a conservative while working on liberal assumptions of what conservatives want to hear.

His “punish the women” comments were of a piece with his refusal to condemn the Klan on CNN. It’s not that he wants to punish women who have abortions — I’d bet he’s paid more abortion bills than he will ever sign — it’s that he thinks that’s what pro-lifers want to hear. It’s not that he’s a Klansman or that the pillowcases at Mara Lago come with eyeholes cut out in advance. It’s that Trump thinks lots of his fans like the Klan and he wants to pander to them. I have heard first-hand stories from people who’ve worked with Trump about how he disparages women’s appearance routinely. That’s who he is. If you’re attacking him because he retweeted a bad picture of Heidi, that’s not you being principled, it’s you getting cold feet. Indeed, I am sure that the same opportunism that has caused so many supposedly principled conservatives to hitch their wagons to Trump is now causing some of them to question their choices, not because Trump has changed but because the climate might be changing around them. By all means, if Trump continues to unravel (a huge if), please abandon Trump. But don’t think for a moment that the rest of us will automatically take your word for it when you say this or that statement changed your mind about the man. He hasn’t changed, your calculations have.

[ … ]

Like all demagogues, he’s using his lies as a loyalty test for his followers. He’s exploiting his popularity and abusing the devotion of his fans to force them into going along with his fictions, until they are in so deep psychologically, they have no choice but to carry on. It’s an ancient psychological tactic of authoritarians, Mafia dons, and the like: Force your followers into sharing the blame for your misdeeds so that they can’t break ranks.

Jonah is right.  He thinks we want to see women who have gotten abortions in the town center in stocks and chains.  He’s pandering to the social right, but he missed on this, and he missed badly.  His other positions – support for the second amendment, advocacy for closed borders – can only be assumed to be pandering as well.

Not to worry, though.  Just about as soon as he said it, he triangulated his position again, to something like abortion laws are already set and we have to leave it that way.  Trumps views on abortion aren’t the topic here.  Trump is the topic.  He is a mirror in which everyone sees what he or she wants to see, its just that the mirror has to be adjusted based on the onlooker and Trump isn’t really as good a triangulator as he is made out to be.

And that brings me to the conservative voters who have already cast their votes for Trump in the primaries heretofore.  Do you remember when socialized medicine was the most important thing about the Obama administration, the holy grail of the progressives?  It still is.

And yet, you have jettisoned that most important piece of your world view to support a man who sees things far differently than you, who supports socialized medicine, and who has said that the only thing he would change about the current system is to allow it to cross state lines.

Trump has woven you into his deception, his lies, his evil.  And when socialized medicine is codified and solidified for you, your children, and your children’s children to the tenth generation of your progeny, when you see that your seed will hate you and this generation for what has been done to the country, it will be far too late.

Open wide, and suck it down.  This is what you voted for, whether in the end it’s Hillary or Trump, or some replacement for Hillary.  Own it.  It’s yours.  The Mafia don asked you to pull the trigger and do the deed.  It’s no longer about him.  Now it’s about you.


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To: Byron_the_Aussie; nopardons; Neil E. Wright
Why is it that Freepers who have been here for the better part of twenty years are prepared to trash their record (or Opus out), with vicious attacks on someone else's candidate? I know we're a big dysfunctional family but we're still all conservatives, of various hue. So why would you offend intentionally offend other Freepers - and in this case, JimRob - when all that would do is harden their views?

BtA, how can you ask that when you can remember all the well known old time Freepers gone by the wayside through the years.

Some people just cannot remain civil in the face of vigorous dissent. I have been on the wrong side here from time to time to a small degree. When I was a youth in the 1960's I was fortunate to read a "Reader's Digest" article "Don't Butt Your Head Against a Brick Wall" or at least it was something like that. That lesson in futility and reason directed me toward a more thoughtful approach in arguments and discussion. Those so full of themselves that they cannot suffer their own introspection do not impress me much. Neil E. Wright needs to go outside at recess and swing on the monkey bars for thirty minutes.

Did you find it humorous that the writer Neil E. Wright, in his magnum opus postremum, culled his thoughts from Herschel Smith who culled his thoughts from Jonah Goldberg?

501 posted on 04/28/2016 12:34:53 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - voted Trump 2016 & Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide)
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To: P-Marlowe

Very pleasantly surprised to see your post.

+1


502 posted on 04/28/2016 12:38:53 PM PDT by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: Spirit of Liberty

Thank you very much, Spirit of Liberty!!


503 posted on 04/28/2016 12:39:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: P-Marlowe; Jim Robinson; DB; onyx; Neil E. Wright; Lakeshark; Marcella; altura; mkjessup; All; ...
That being said, I think it is very important that we social conservatives hold DT's feet to the fire.

No reason we can't do that. We did it with GW Bush and amnesty, so we can do it again. We did it with GW and Harriet Miers. We can do it again.

Trump's propensity is to not even touch social issues if he can help it. Our job should be to get those issues on state ballots as state issues and bypass our governors and legislatures. Powers not for the fed are for the states and for the people.

So many folks forget that last part mentioned "the people".

Personally, I'd favor an intiative giving tax credits to any business that turned multi-person bathrooms into single user bathrooms. It's safer that way, anyway, even without the transgender issue.

504 posted on 04/28/2016 12:54:25 PM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Amen! And a professional and classy response, Jim. We need to stick together.

God bless.


505 posted on 04/28/2016 1:13:26 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Neil E. Wright

I’m embarrassed to say that I giggled all through your opus.

Jonah Goldberg, the bloated, untidy son of the amazing and politically-incorrect Lucianne Goldberg, only got his various jobs through his famous and infamous mother. Before that he was selling Dove Bars on the streets of Manhattan. Happily for him, through his mother’s connections and the various bimbo eruptions, Jonah was able to parlay that into a Washington-insider career .So I don’t always take this son of nepotism seriously.

I also remember this crap from 1980 - Reagan was going to destroy the world, destroy America and most certainly destroy the growing gravy train of Washington, DC. Perhaps you are too young to remember that. Well, I do. It all worked out quite nicely until the Bush family took over (and I voted for them 3 times!) and set back our cultural efforts 40 years.

Every vote for president is a crap-shoot. I’m throwing my dice for the Donald. He has impressed me over six months when I started out as a doubter that would have startled Thomas.


506 posted on 04/28/2016 1:46:45 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: MIA_eccl1212

Why would someone outsource chip making, or even computer manufacture? (hint: check the effect of the EPA and environmental policy on the processes involved).


507 posted on 04/28/2016 1:49:25 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (America has given itself over to evil. The Almighty will give it the government it deserves.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Good question.
The big tech companies for whom I have done extensive work over the years... outsource to save money... they say.
They get to hire people at a lower rate on a visa program, and from the time they start working here, after import, they are in constant FEAR of their lives.

Closest thing to the ‘indentured’ servant/ aka slave as I have ever met. They often have degrees, but cannot invent, adapt or create technology... and are under constant threat.

If you are making say, 65 g a year as a tech import, and you are from India... or China... or Japan... going home with no job, and scrapping to make 3 dollars a day, is not an option. When they come here and are married, the threat is their husband, wife, children, dissolution of their family upon discharge from the job and loss of everything humans care about.

And an upper middle class american who is worth his chops in technology trades can pull down close to 150 g - 200 g a year. at the big 10, senior level technologists have to also be paid benefits and bonuses. that bump that by an additional 20 percent.

So, what they do is bring in the 45-65 k a year indentured slave, to memorize the bulk of the innovator/implementor American worker/technologist for 8-12 mos and then fire the higher paid worker who developed the new 3d software, or the newest chip/motherboard configuration.

But the imports don’t always do as well as accounting and investment product line administrators expect. Product lines fail. Proprietary design and techno concepts are stolen, taken back to the country of origin and passed to the countries who tariff the hell out of our ‘original’ product, and scream bloody murder when the US threatens to tariff them equally, or manipulate the currency structure to offset the losses.

the idea sold to us as free trade carried with it the no hidden manipulation structure agreed to by member nations and companies.
Over time, the other countries skirt the agreement, and when we threaten to do likewise, the people getting rich around the world... scream, USA is threatening us with protectionism.

Why do companies and nations do that?
GREED, THEFT and CHEATING helps them stay afloat and build the nukes they want to kill us all with.

And the world trade people and their sycophants, buy parties, candidates, governments and organizing structures to keep the graft train rolling.

And although I have great hopes that Trump will terminate that whole structure... I doubt they will let him ever take office. I am concerned for his life, or the life of anyone who stands up to them. they own the republican party as the GOPe.. and they own the Hillary branch of the democrat party.

Bernie, commie that he is, would never get to take office either. Too damned nationalistic and a loose cannon.

I am worried about the jfk type of hit on Trump... and I suspect that Hillary is slated for health reasons to be dropped and replaced by Obama’s next right hand team.

We shall see.
That is a quick summary of what I have seen of outsourcing in the USA. Somebody get me a cheeseburger.


508 posted on 04/28/2016 2:15:25 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (10 rounds 10 meters 10 seconds 10 centimetres)
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To: Dallas59

LOL.

Best meme posted here in recent memory.

We have some Cruz folks in the #NeverTrump camp, and some Trump folks in the #NeverCruz camp. The graphic hits ‘em both.

Of course, those freepers who are strongly inclined to vote for one of them will pull the lever for either of them come Nov. Deny it all you want, but you will.

I still believe it’s true, as I was told growing up in the early 70s, if you can’t even bother to vote, well shut up, then!


509 posted on 04/28/2016 2:30:55 PM PDT by dmz
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Over the past eight years, I’ve watched as people I thought were well-educated, and well-read, falling for stuff like the Arab Spring, the “birth certificate,” the Muslim invasion (i.e., that it’s just “nice” to let them flood in), etc. I have come to have more and more confidence in what I’ve been listening to and reading (Robert Spencer, Pam Geller, Peter Boyles, Jerome Corsi, Alex Jones, etc. Here on FR, Alex Jones was persona non grata, because he was a “9/11 truther.” Now stories on the 28 pages are on mainstream front pages, and on FR.


510 posted on 04/28/2016 2:43:31 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: chris37

Actually I’m not a Cruz supporter....per se.


511 posted on 04/28/2016 2:53:46 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The GOPe.....are actually worse than the Dim's)
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To: antceecee

I think he was a Mittens supporter.


512 posted on 04/28/2016 2:59:31 PM PDT by PJBankard (Political Correctness has killed America. It is time America is resurrected.)
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To: Veracious Poet
Put a sock in it...VP!

Go ahead and ping the boss...and any others you think might care.

I've an opinion...and I will be giving it.

Donald Trump CANNOT do what he's a claiming to do...PERIOD!! THERE WILL BE NO WALL BUILT..!! Anyone who thinks that will happen...is crazy as Joe Biden.

513 posted on 04/28/2016 3:00:17 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The GOPe.....are actually worse than the Dim's)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Use your knowledge of New Yorker’s ( meaning New York City,,,) and your imagination...


514 posted on 04/28/2016 3:05:07 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The GOPe.....are actually worse than the Dim's)
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To: All
Everybody is making a big mistake in announcing at this stage of the game that he won't vote for the nominee. That's absolutely ridiculous! People who voted for Dole, McCain, and Romney suddenly refuse to vote for Trump or Cruz? Why are we tearing each other apart? Why isn't any of this being focused on Hillary and the Dems?

I have made no secret of the fact that I prefer Cruz and that I'm not sure Trump can be trusted. But unless something totally outrageous happens, I fully intend to vote for our nominee in November, whether it's Cruz or Trump.

What in the sam hill has gotten into everybody this election???

515 posted on 04/28/2016 3:12:58 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: chris37
I am done being suckered by professional politicians that masquerade as conservatives.

It's my thought...that we are about to be suckered by a professional....masquerading as a Republican.

I will say this.....Trump is surrounding himself with people that....I think are smart about many things.

And I like it when smart people...surround themselves with smart people.

516 posted on 04/28/2016 3:15:55 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The GOPe.....are actually worse than the Dim's)
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To: Osage Orange

No, explain to me exactly what you meant. Please explain to me what New Yorkers are like.


517 posted on 04/28/2016 3:53:50 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Grampa Dave
John Anthony Walker, Jr. was a United States Navy Chief Warrant Officer and communications specialist convicted of spying for the Soviet Union from 1968 to 1985.

Walker was an old timer too.

I worked with that crypto gear, sevens and twenty sixes mostly, that the Walker Brothers Spy Clan compromised. Now it is in museums and on internet websites after getting phased out in the 1980's.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/29/justice/cold-war-spy-dies/

518 posted on 04/28/2016 4:43:37 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - voted Trump 2016 & Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide)
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To: miss marmelstein
Jonah Goldberg, the bloated, untidy son of the amazing and politically-incorrect Lucianne Goldberg, only got his various jobs through his famous and infamous mother.

Trixie's best trick one might say.

519 posted on 04/28/2016 5:13:12 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - voted Trump 2016 & Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide)
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To: Radix

See this post; this is why I support Trump.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3425543/posts?page=20#20

He will go after shrillary.


520 posted on 04/28/2016 7:46:36 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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