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Russia offers free land to all citizens willing to move to the Far East
washingtonpost.com ^ | Ishaan Tharoor | May 4 at 4:00 AM

Posted on 05/04/2016 10:22:49 PM PDT by Trumpinator

Call it the Muscovite version of "manifest destiny." On Monday, President Vladimir Putin signed into law a bill that offers every Russian citizen a tract of land in their country's remote Far East.

"All citizens will be entitled to apply for up to hectare of land in the Kamchatka, Primorye, Khabarovsk, Amur, Magadan and Sakhalin regions, the republic of Sakha, or the Jewish and Chukotka autonomous districts," the Moscow Times reports. This is a vast stretch of territory spanning the upper Arctic reaches near Alaska, down to islands off the coast of Japan and deep into the Siberian hinterland.

Those interested in the venture can hold their hectare (about 2.5 acres) free of payment or tax for five years. After that, they would receive titles to their plot provided they have put it to use in the prior years.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Russia
KEYWORDS: fareast; russia; russianfareast; siberia
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To: Shanghai Dan
Those millions Chineses are invisible, no single Chinatown in all Siberia. According to official statistic there are circa 50 000 Chinamen in all Russia while about half of million Russians from Far East and Siberia moved to China in last decade.70% of Russian territory are frozen swamps.
61 posted on 05/05/2016 7:16:40 AM PDT by Cossak (()
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To: Cossak
Russia's Interior Ministry estimates over 2 million Chinese live in Siberia. And there are many, many more arriving every day. In another 20 years, Siberia could be majority Chinese.

The areas of Siberia bordering Mongolia and China are quite remarkably like Mongolia and China, rich in minerals, timber and quite a bit of fossil fuels. All of which China covets. It's going to be the hot spot in Asia in the next decade, in my estimation.

62 posted on 05/05/2016 7:21:58 AM PDT by Shanghai Dan
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To: TigersEye
Mosqitoes is not only pest, much worse are small flies, moshkara, they penetrate into eyes, ears, through hairs to the skin. They are able to suck dry blood of caribou deers. And winter 9 months long is not especially inspiring
63 posted on 05/05/2016 7:24:44 AM PDT by Cossak (()
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To: zeestephen
There are plenty bears in Yakutia, and they are nasty, often attack people. Tigers are rare and under state protection. They usually do not attack people, but wolves are their favorite food. It is better to have somewhere around a tiger than wolves.”
64 posted on 05/05/2016 7:30:28 AM PDT by Cossak (()
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To: RightFighter

Probably not, since that’s about how much I garden myself.

And even though ours is some of the finest soil on the planet, it’s not enough land to support a family. Not even close.


65 posted on 05/05/2016 7:37:52 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Trumpinator
They have actually been doing this kind of thing for a long time. I had dinner in the home of a Russian Land Management official in Vladivostok in 1992. He was outlining for me how that they give free land to families who will raise food on it. At that time it was like this. If someone would take about 50 square meters and raise a garden, the plot would double the following year. Produce on that, and it goes to a hectare. That kind of thing.

When we lived in Ussurriysk, north of Vladivostok in 1996, 1997, very little of Primorskiy Territory (Vladivostok, Ussurriysk, that region) was cultivated. Vast untouched grasslands could be viewed by train all the way to the Chinese border at Gredekiva/SuiFenHe). Cross into China and you could see nothing BUT cultivated land, green houses, grain elevators, processing plants, etc.

The Russians had been accustomed for generations with working in military armament factories, which could be seen abandoned along the major roads. The people there had not been farmers; didn't know how to farm. They bought their food from China and South Korea. The Koreans were cultivating a hearty winter rice in Primorskiy. We shopped for our food mainly in Chinese/Korean open markets. The exchange rate in 1997 was 6,000 Rubles to one U.S. Dollar.

66 posted on 05/05/2016 7:38:14 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: TheNext

Those regions are below the arctic.


67 posted on 05/05/2016 8:00:59 AM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said. youtube.com/watch?v=HZA9k7WAuiY)
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To: Shanghai Dan; Cossak
In another 20 years, Siberia could be majority Chinese.

They are not all ethnic Chinese. We think of China as this homogeneous people but they are not. In 20 years China may become the domain of dozens of various warlords when the Red Chinese communist dictatorship falls. like it was a 100 years go.

In my thinking, China is not an expansionist land power per say but an influence expanding regime that goes back to when the emperors thought themselves the center of the universe and all nations needed to come to China and kowtow to the emperor. The Chinese burned their fleets after they sent them out to span the known world to awe the barbarians. The Europeans are different - they send fleets and directly occupy or conquer. The Chinese in history did not really do that.

68 posted on 05/05/2016 8:05:33 AM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said. youtube.com/watch?v=HZA9k7WAuiY)
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To: T-Bone Texan

The Aussies are apparently oblivious—dancing right over the edge—drunk with the same delusions that are destroying Europe. They’ll wake up when the Chinese Navy has them surrounded. Maybe. Maybe they won’t even wake up then—such is the nature of delusion!


69 posted on 05/05/2016 8:09:11 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Trump is Alexander slashing the Gordian Knot!)
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To: Savage Beast

In my career in oil and gas I have had dealings with Australians and have been able to observe their culture.

They are just a little bit too relaxed for me, and I say that as a person who has laziness as a pivotal part of his mission statement.

It’s an odd quirk of the masses there - apathy/no worries mate/easygoingness as a pivotal part of their culture.


70 posted on 05/05/2016 8:15:01 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: T-Bone Texan
That's been my impression of them too. Basically they're off in LaLaLand. But people like that set themselves up for a vicious shock when reality crashes through their delusions.

They love to ridicule the U.S.A. But if the U.S.A. were no longer there to protect them, they would be sitting ducks.

71 posted on 05/05/2016 8:35:41 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Trump is Alexander slashing the Gordian Knot!)
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To: Trumpinator

I’ve seen those Siberian documentaries

Freeze yourself for 9 months and then covered in skeeters and black flies and horseflies and gnats the other 3

Siberians are hardy off the charts


72 posted on 05/05/2016 8:38:06 AM PDT by wardaddy (gonna need a lot of rope and lamposts and gibbets after this primary season.....)
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To: RightFighter
My wife tells me that the locals don’t believe they will actually retain title to the land if they take this offer.

They know their history.

73 posted on 05/05/2016 11:23:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
They know their history.

The entire history of Russia, in five words:

"And then things got worse."

74 posted on 05/05/2016 11:26:33 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

“You’re born naked, hungry, cold and wet, and it’s all downhill from there.”


75 posted on 05/05/2016 11:27:45 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Savage Beast

Have you seen that land? It would take a lifetime and massive support just to farm it.


76 posted on 05/05/2016 12:33:35 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: Trumpinator

Well, I guess your experience with Chinese and China is radically different than mine. I lived in China (Shanghai and Guangzhou) for 6 years, been working 30-40% of the year here (I’m here now) for 12 more years, and married a Shanghai gal.

They know there are ethnic differences, but IMHO it’s seen more as what we do in the US - Southern slow folks, Yankee slicksters, etc. But they all consider themselves Chinese and will rally together immediately, even if they are from different provinces and backgrounds.

The Chinese Government of today is radically different than that of the 1200s-1800s. It’s highly expansionist, it wants land - mainly because it wants resources. Witness the shenanigans going on in the South China Sea. The constant skirmishes over water and resources with Vietnam and Laos. The grab for Tibet, the constant erosion of independence of Mongolia. Siberia will be next, first as influence and then as annexation.


77 posted on 05/05/2016 5:09:41 PM PDT by Shanghai Dan
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To: 4rcane
They’re moving East because Asia is the future. Europe is dying.

The people aren't moving. The government wants them to move.

Russians have always moved to the periphery -- Baltic, Ukraine, Caucasus, Central Asia -- but Siberia and the Far East haven't been that popular: bad climate, too far from what's going on.

Earlier governments -- tsarist or Soviet -- could bind people to the land to maintain settlements in unattractive regions. They can't do that anymore, so the government is trying financial incentives.

78 posted on 05/05/2016 5:16:38 PM PDT by x
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To: x

I understand many of the Ukrainian Refugees are considering that offer.....thousands went into Russia and have no desire to return to their country.....


79 posted on 05/05/2016 5:19:25 PM PDT by caww
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To: Shanghai Dan

You stated..... China is highly expansionist, it wants land - mainly because it wants resources.

I have not studied much about the Resources of China...but why is it so necessary for them to do so......I speak of water and other natural resources....


80 posted on 05/05/2016 5:22:07 PM PDT by caww
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