Posted on 05/12/2016 8:12:51 AM PDT by GonzoII
Donald Trump entered his pow wow with House Speaker Paul Ryan Thursday in the driver's seat, emboldened by a new poll that shows voters want the Republican Party to be more like the real estate tycoon, not the 2012 vice presidential nominee.
Rasmussen reported: "Nearly half (47%) of GOP voters now believe the Republican Party should be more like Trump than like Ryan. Thirty-two percent (32%) disagree and say the GOP should be more like Ryan. Seventeen percent (17%) opt for neither."
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If the GOPe had been responsive to its voters’ interests there probably wouldn’t be a Trump candidacy. He is a direct reflection of their frustration with the pathetic failure of the GOP to do anything constructive. The voters are tired of talk; they want action.
Its ironic that the GOPe did nothing to stop Obama yet they seem intent on trying to obstruct Trump and continue denying the will of the voters.
Lyin’ Ryan is still playing political games and thinks he can get some concessions out of Trump. Its this kind of arrogance that Republican voters have learned to despise and its why they are sick and tired of the GOPe.
The GOPe’s smokescreen tactics have been exposed. You nailed it.
Anything counter to that is not "conservative" at all. You mutated the ideology of conservationism to mean getting involved in overseas adventures and for globalization aka free trade.
Yes, what you said, I agree 100%.
Of course the most obvious explanation is that Ryan is trying to get some type of control over Trump. Trump made his billions by negotiating deals. It is safe to say that Ryan who has never even won a statewide election is way out of his league.
Ryan is helping Trump keep the support of Democrats who will vote for Trump because they think that the Republican party doesn’t want him. He may also be setting an example to ease Cruz supporters on board. If it wasn’t for his past record I would wonder if Trump didn’t ask him to act this way.
Ryan’s pathetic post-meeting presser was a verbal smokescreen of political rhetoric and obfuscation, which are the only things he is good at. His talk of unity was nothing but a cover for his feeble attempt to appear relevant in the face of mounting disappointment and opposition to him. Ryan’s star is falling and he has few chips left to play. Trump knows he has the upper hand.
Your point about easing Cruz supporters on board is an interesting perspective that I had not thought about. If true, this would be the first glimmer of leadership out of Ryan since he became speaker. Its about time.
No, Thomas Jefferson went to war with the Barbary pirates to enhance American export trade
America was involved in global trade from the beginning
Your assertions are false and a biased misreading of history
“...it’s called ‘The Democratic Party.’”
Democrat.
It’s Democrat party.
“But what does it take to make the GOPe comprehend this?”
Oh, then “comprehend” completely. It’s just that they simply want to continue the status quo. Newt Gingrich was spot on last night on Hannity. He rattled through the elements of the GOPe and why they are going kicking ans screaming into this election. Ryan personnifies the “organ grinder’s monkeys” whom they control with their money. Someone just posted that in 17 years in the House, he’s only proposed THREE BILLS, and one of them was to name a post office. He’s just like Hillary’s “Senate Career.” They all take our money under false pretenses.
“Wisconsin’s Senate seat”
I think you meant House seat. Ryan is a Representative, not a Senator.
Ryan wants Trump to adopt his plan to cut social security, open borders, trade deals where we are taken to the cleaners, cheap labor express, H1b visas, fund Obamacare.
Seems to me the primaries leaders were all outsiders, and Ryan sat this out.
So, all of a sudden, the Constitution and limited government don’t matter? Strong national defense and “winning again” are good, too, but not enough by themselves. You need the whole package of preserving the American way of life and the American freedom and constitutional governance.
They still matter to me, and I’m still registered Republican.
>>No, Thomas Jefferson went to war with the Barbary pirates to enhance American export trade
Yes. EXPORT trade. He didn’t go to war to protect our right to outsource all of our jobs to a cheaper labor market. We are a continental power. We have resources and we have people and we have our own markets. Other nations need to come to us looking for a deal, not the other way around as we do now.
we did not export any jobs. That is, we did not export any jobs.
the cost of American labor became too expensive. Labor was subcontracted elsewhere such that the products became salable.
the choice was to buy labor out of the country or close the business.
the concept of exporting jobs is a fallacious and in some cases malicious myth
Tariff Act of 1789: "Whereas it is necessary for that support of government, for the discharge of the debts of the United States, and the encouragement and protection of manufactures, that duties be laid on goods, wares and merchandise:"
I wrote the same before I saw your response. Also, he tried to spin it as if I stated the Founding Fathers were against global trade as if people who advocate for "America First" don't want trade with the world.
I repeat - free trade aka globalization is a mutation on conservative ideology and is in fact an alien graft onto it.
Tariffs are archaic relics that would not accomplish the intended results
The income tax has proven to be a more acceptable and in fact satisfactory method for financing the government
The myth is you think you are a Conservative. You and your Free Trading ilk are being push into the dustbin of history where your type belongs. Bye.
Go Trump go!
>>the cost of American labor became too expensive. Labor was subcontracted elsewhere such that the products became salable.
If you subscribe to the idea that all money must go to business owners, then you are correct. If you believe in a free nation where it is respectable to work for a living, then you are denying people’s right to fair employment.
If you think that all money should go to business owners, then don’t get mad when everyone else votes for the Socialist.
Globalism is good in moderation. We took it too far and the backlash is Obama and Bernie. You created a generation with no hope of having a career and you wonder why they are so short-sighted. As the businessman says when he lays off his workers, “it’s not personal. It’s just business.” Voting for a living has become the only stable career in America.
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