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1 posted on 05/21/2016 3:24:33 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
But when she returned to Seattle for a routine spinal surgery...

Is there really any such thing as "routine" spinal surgery?

2 posted on 05/21/2016 3:25:57 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("During a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" --George Orwell)
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This is a bad violation of medical ethics.

There are people who would be willing to take a risk for the sake of an experimental treatment, and maybe even the ones who took this risk unknowingly would have consented to the risk of dying for the sake of trying to have a pain-free life. But no one knows since they were denied that consideration.

Also with the risks, such as they were, understood, maybe those patients could have been more closely monitored for problems and the side effects headed off by being quickly detected and treated.

The answer cannot be to ban experimental treatments, but to ensure that they are always offered as such and to eliminate perverse incentives to skirt that system.


3 posted on 05/21/2016 3:30:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Olog-hai

The company that manufactured this cement was owned by the notorious Swiss billionaire and leftist Hansjorg Wyss at the time all this was happening.

Look him up on wikipedia.


5 posted on 05/21/2016 4:14:32 PM PDT by bkopto
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People complain about the high costs of new drugs and the “obscene profits” of “big pharma.” The high costs are a direct consequence of the time, effort, and expense of testing drugs (and medical devices) for safety and efficacy prior to marketing. If that testing were bypassed as some anti-”big pharma” advocates seem to want, we would see stories like this every day.

The problem is not that this company conducted human experimentation, but that it did NOT conduct human—or any other—experimentation prior to using it on patients. In fact, the stuff should have been tested extensively, first, in vitro, then in animals, then in a small group of humans, then progressively larger groups of humans.

Most prototype drugs fail the testing process long before they reach human testing stage. No doubt, had this company gone through the proper regulatory requirements for testing, this stuff would have never been used in humans to begin with, because it would have failed long before that point.


6 posted on 05/21/2016 4:54:38 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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Ping.


7 posted on 05/21/2016 5:25:01 PM PDT by Trillian
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I smell b.s. Or really, really bad reporting.

Vertebroplasty isn't not a new or experimental procedure. As in, “bone cements” have been used to stabilize vertebral compression for at least twenty years.

“Bone cement” has been used for around 60 years.

Likewise, the complication of blood clots has been known...for around 60 years.

Blood clots. But the reporter kept using the phrase “bled out.” Clots, as one would assume, cause blockages not massive hemorrhage.

The mentioned patients were elderly. Where they the usual elderly patients with limited mobility and on Coumadin, plavix, and daily aspirin? If so, what was the PT/INR time? These patients are a high risk surgical group for even a mole removal or biopsy.

Oh, yes. All drugs, implants, pins, replacements, suture materials have been developed with human experimentation. Pigs can only get you so far. Human trials are required.

Lastly. Synthes was a huge Obama/ Hillary donor. A couple huge donations got the DOJ to give a basic slap on the wrist for the CEO and a term at Club Med prison for a couple others. So why the press six years later?

8 posted on 05/21/2016 5:33:35 PM PDT by Ophiucus
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Medical ethics like science is circling the drain thanks to progressives and their twisted view of life.


9 posted on 05/21/2016 9:02:29 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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