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FDA regulations could kill the vaping industry
WVLT - CBS Local ^ | May 25, 2016 | By Lauren Davis

Posted on 05/26/2016 1:18:21 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Knoxville vape companies are fuming mad after the FDA passed new regulations this month. They say this new law will put an end to the vaping industry.

They are shocked at how far reaching the regulations are, and now they're afraid the new restrictions will destroy the industry.

Hunter Allison with Tri State Vape Company will have to submit an application for each new product. He says that would come with a hefty price tag. Allison says, "The absolutely lowest price I've seen is $300,000 per product and that's $4.5 million for me and there's no possible way.

He's already put $150,000 into his e-liquid manufacturing company.

He says more money will put him out of business.

Store owners say they've made some major contributions to the community employing 15 people and generating $280,000 in tax revenue. They say new regulations will put them out of business, and they won't be the only ones. Bill Livezey says, "They've basically blanketed the industry with such rigorous standards that no one is going to survive this."

(Excerpt) Read more at local8now.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhofda; bigbrother; ecigs; fda; pufflist; regulatioins; regulations; smoking; vaping
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To: Drango

An addict to freedom. Sorry you don’t like it, you nananana nanny.


41 posted on 05/26/2016 2:30:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

There is no freedom in addiction.


42 posted on 05/26/2016 2:33:25 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: MeganC

“foods and drugs we ingest don’t kill us.”


Alcohol kills people-—and destroys many lives that it doesn’t kill.

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43 posted on 05/26/2016 2:33:43 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Drango

There is freedom in the possibility to choose addiction or temperance. There is no freedom in forced temperance.


44 posted on 05/26/2016 2:35:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

45 posted on 05/26/2016 2:36:36 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: MeganC

“regulating a drug”

The debate is a matter of degree.

They are also, as the name indicates, supposed to be regulating food.

Start taxing/regulating those sugary drinks? Folks don’t seem to like that one, but the rationale for doing it is exactly the same as for tobacco.

The reason they go after vaping is because they hate smokers and smoking. Those that don’t actually care see it as a cash cow (justifying high taxes).

Extensive propaganda on the dangers of second hand smoke, and any neutrals in the public are sold on the tax.

The only symptom out there I see of this coming back to the gov to bite them is the comparable absurdity the public falls for over things like mold, vaccine processing, etc.. The gov doesn’t agree w/that hysteria but can’t squash out those beliefs.

When you have the Surgeon General saying things like “There is no safe level of cigarette smoke”, many people begin to think in general that the smallest amount of a dangerous substance is deadly.

If a substance has no “safe level” then it is more dangerous than radioactive waste and weaponized botulism toxin, the deadliest substance on earth-

For botulism toxin the lethal dose for a 70-kg person by the oral route is estimated at 70 mcg, by the inhalational route 0.80 to 0.90 mcg, and by the intravenous route 0.09 to 0.15 mcg.


46 posted on 05/26/2016 2:40:22 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Alcohol wouldn’t work because it works by heating it. The alcohol would evaporate. Might even catch on fire/explode.


47 posted on 05/26/2016 2:42:00 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: Drango
Considering that they are now deeming everything that is enjoyable as an "addiction" you might want to rethink your position.

Enjoy a donut? Well that is a "fat addiction" a "sugar addiction" a "wheat addiction".

Like being on-line? That is an addiction.

Like petting your dog? Addiction.

Making love to your spouse? Addiction.

Love your children? Addiction.

Everything accept the desire to have the government run every single part of your life seems to be an addiction.

48 posted on 05/26/2016 2:51:15 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Drango
It didn't take you long to show up did it? You've been the most obnoxious opponent of tobacco sales since the topic arose over 10 years ago and yet you claim to be a "conservative" who opposes govt. intervention.

With that being said, we and others have argued this topic with you and I have no intention to continue those arguments.

So on behalf of SheLion and the others who you ultimately chased off this site, I say F'U, you're nothing but a hypocritical phony.............

49 posted on 05/26/2016 2:51:32 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (#HillaryForPrison-2016)
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To: pierrem15

“What you’re saying is like saying mouthwash should have a tax stamp because it contains alcohol.”

I never said any such thing. Be careful that you don’t outrage yourself with that kind of straw-man argument.


50 posted on 05/26/2016 2:58:59 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Big tobacco regulations via the FDA. The sole intent of this, from the article: “I know a lot of people who would go back to smoking (tobacco)”


51 posted on 05/26/2016 3:01:58 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: MeganC

I’m with you on the unthinkables that are in Chinese fluids, but as others have said, this looks like the FDA is targeting small boutique firms.


52 posted on 05/26/2016 3:03:01 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In fairness the FDA is also targeting small compounding pharmacies due to the unusual number of deaths connected to them in recent years. The two are similar after a fashion.

http://www.bendbulletin.com/newsroomstafflist/3763386-151/fda-puts-heat-on-compounding-pharmacies


53 posted on 05/26/2016 3:08:51 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: Drango
There is no freedom in addiction.

There is no freedom in poverty or obesity or sickness. So let's put fedgov in charge of abolishing those obstacles to our freedom. /s

The OP had it right => nanana nanny.

54 posted on 05/26/2016 3:13:24 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sooner or later someone has got to defy this out of control fedgov. Wiping out an entire industry with regulations formulated by unelected bureaucrats?


55 posted on 05/26/2016 3:15:30 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job....)
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To: Hot Tabasco

You’re still an addict.


56 posted on 05/26/2016 3:34:32 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Boogieman
Where is the word “drug” mentioned in the Constitution?

Ask the DEA.

57 posted on 05/26/2016 3:54:42 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: HiTech RedNeck
(i)"My guess is that Big Tobacco demanded and got a choke hold on the action through regulations they could easily afford but shut out the little guy."

"I’d say there needs to be a vape equivalent of roll your own."

Right now that's exactly what you have. Vapers are able to "roll their own". That's why big Tobacco want's a stop put to it. Also the FDA is upping the regulations (higher taxes) on roll your own and pipe tobacco with these same regulations, thereby closing the roll your own discount price "loophole", too.

Making all the healthier alternatives cost the same as the evil cigarettes. The poor and minorities hardest hit. Many may start smoking cigarettes again.

Yes, Big Tobacco's hands are all over this one.

58 posted on 05/26/2016 4:16:34 PM PDT by Spitzensparkin1 (Arrest and deport illegal aliens. Americans demand those jobs back!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Just another nudge. The Feds want to build up enough anger til a few folks take the bait and start shooting.


59 posted on 05/26/2016 5:36:45 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: MeganC

You should have left the post at “Abolish the FDA”, it would have at least been the Constitutional thing to do.


60 posted on 05/26/2016 6:28:40 PM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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