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Neuron-Packed Bird Brains Point to Creation
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 6-20-16 | Jeffrey P. Tomkins, Ph.D.

Posted on 06/20/2016 8:26:33 AM PDT by fishtank

Neuron-Packed Bird Brains Point to Creation

by Jeffrey P. Tomkins, Ph.D. *

The amazing ability of birds to achieve ape-level cognitive traits—and in some cases exceed them like when they emulate human speech—has long confounded the evolutionary paradigm that claims humans evolved from apes. Now the bird intelligence evolutionary quandary has worsened as described in a new research report that shows bird brains contain over twice as many neurons per unit area as ape brains.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; birds; corvids; creation; notanewstopic; notasciencetopic
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To: fishtank

So, it’s good to be a bird-brain!........................


21 posted on 06/20/2016 8:54:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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To: MUDDOG

Sorry, it was just too easy.


22 posted on 06/20/2016 8:54:54 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Utilizer

You are correct.

According to evolutionary theory, we are still technically apes. We evolved from primates lower than apes, if neo-Darwinian theory is to be believed.


23 posted on 06/20/2016 8:55:15 AM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: Utilizer

If Humans evolved from Apes, there would be no Apes.


24 posted on 06/20/2016 8:56:13 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Scandals were Brains, Hillary would be the smartest person on the Planet.)
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To: wastoute

Paws up, don’t shoot!


25 posted on 06/20/2016 8:57:23 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: fishtank

If bird brains are twice as effective as ours, and if dogs can make their own vitamin C but humans can’t, and if there actually is a Creator, it doesn’t look like he was particularly fond of humans.


26 posted on 06/20/2016 9:01:43 AM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: MUDDOG

LOL. I don’t believe that would be my Doberman’s response to a threatening shooter. His answer, translated from dog, would probably be, “oh,boy! Your ass is mine! I hope you are a libtard because I hear libtards taste like chicken and I love chicken!”


27 posted on 06/20/2016 9:02:25 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: fishtank

I’m still blown away whenever I see videos of crows solving puzzles better and faster than apes, using tools and everything.

What purpose does it serve for birds to be smarter than apes? They already have physical advantages that would keep them in a safe evolutionary niche like flying, beaks, and claws. There’s absolutely no need for them to develop such intelligence.


28 posted on 06/20/2016 9:02:58 AM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: fishtank

Evolutionary adaptability. Larger brains mean more weight. More weight means birds could not fly. So, more neurons without additional weight. Not so surprising.


29 posted on 06/20/2016 9:03:42 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: wastoute

Good dog!


30 posted on 06/20/2016 9:04:35 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: fishtank
...the evolutionary paradigm that claims humans evolved from apes.

Is that the current paradigm of evolutionists? The way I understand it, current thinking is that both apes (which still exist)and Homo Sapiens evolved from a common ancestor who was neither ape nor man.

31 posted on 06/20/2016 9:04:47 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: sparklite2

Funny but in His Word he tell us of all creatures only we are in His image.


32 posted on 06/20/2016 9:10:38 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: MUDDOG

He is and we miss no chance to tell him.


33 posted on 06/20/2016 9:11:51 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: angryoldfatman
What purpose does it serve for birds to be smarter than apes? They already have physical advantages that would keep them in a safe evolutionary niche like flying, beaks, and claws.

Well, all the food is "down there." So is the nest, which is built in one place from material gathered in quite another place. A good deal of their business is conducted where they're out of their element. Get down there, do what you gotta do, but do it smartly and get back upstairs asap.

Then there's the migration thing.

And birds in the wetlands have it even more complex.

If they weren't exceptionally intelligent they'd be gone with the rest of the dinosaur tribes.

34 posted on 06/20/2016 9:16:09 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( It Can't Happen Here -- Sinclair Lewis.)
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To: fishtank

Evolution = religion.


35 posted on 06/20/2016 9:20:35 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

“Complex systems cannot arise by chance events.”

True. But chance events cause complex systems to adapt and sometimes that means they become more complex in order to adapt.


36 posted on 06/20/2016 9:27:24 AM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: alstewartfan

It was a magic protozoan, it sprang to life from inert matter all on it’s own! Just like what happens every day.


37 posted on 06/20/2016 9:29:35 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist
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To: MUDDOG

Smart but insane


38 posted on 06/20/2016 9:33:57 AM PDT by Mercat (Boredom is a problem on the inside. And happiness, too, is an inside job.)
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To: Buttons12

Still no need to be smarter than apes. Still can survive sufficiently with physical advantages and the brains to use them.

Food - no need to have ape-like intelligence to grasp food with claws, fly up with it, peck it open with a hard beak. Or fly to food that’s still in a tree, which is even better (it’s in that niche I was talking about).

It doesn’t take ape-like intelligence to build a nest.

It doesn’t take ape-like intelligence to migrate. If anything, the wings are the big advantage there, not brains. Instinct is not thought or reasoning.

You don’t need ape-like intelligence to survive in wetlands. Flying is a great advantage in those areas, just like it is on dry land.


39 posted on 06/20/2016 9:40:55 AM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: fishtank
https://8.smash.com/u/2015/06/bird-740x370.gif

40 posted on 06/20/2016 9:52:58 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING ’VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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