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self | 7/15/2016 | self

Posted on 07/15/2016 9:08:34 AM PDT by LS

There are a number of events erupting simultaneously, yet they are all connected. Many of you have commented on various threads about these in different ways. Let me (in a potpourris) address them.

1. The Islamic terrorist attack in Nice is more of the same; the French reaction is pretty much more of the same; and the US media reaction is typical head-in-the-sand, "Moslems don't kill people, trucks kill people" response. Will the French/Euros learn? They haven't so far, although a movement is building in France to finally take their country back---a French version of the "Reconquista." Too soon to see if it takes, and too early to know if France has found its pride and a spine.

2. Nice part deux: Obviously this only helps Trump. I saw a Tweet from a French young man last night, "I don't care who the Americans elect as long as it's not Hillary." The polls out earlier this week were STILL slanted, still heavily over-sampling Ds, and now had already shifted in Trump's direction. If the election were held today, Cankles would win . . . just barely, due to her lead in VA and a tie in OH. If OH and VA continue to go in Trump's direction, he already has the election no matter what CO and NV do. Right now he's ahead in PA, FL, IA, but losing VA, OH, CO, and NV would leave him down 20. Trump at this point really only needs to flip either CO or NV, plus either VA or OH to win. However, MI at 16 changes everything. Every time there is a Dallas BlacKKKlivesMatter (yes, they are a terrorist organization) or Moslem (yes, I'm using the old spelling because it offends them) murderous attack, Trump's numbers go up.

3. In many ways, this will be a "law and order" election a la 1968, except Trump will also have the trade and economic issues on his side, as well as the Moslem issue. When you combine that with Cankles' incredibly terrible "honesty" ratings, I really don't see how she even comes close in the electoral college, let alone wins. In my scenario above, if all those states come along, Trump would get to 330 EVs.

4. Pence: well, what can you say? All of you Freepers have had complaints of one sort or another about every potential veep. There is no getting around it. Having been a rock drummer, I remember two rules of showbiz:

The warmup can never upstage the headliner and stay on the tour, and the warmup always has to make the headliner look good.

Pence can do these. Moreover, while ALL politicians are ambitious, he doesn't strike me as frothing, rabidly ambitious the way Newt or Cruz do. Why is that important? There WILL be some talk of impeaching Trump the minute he does something decent (Moslem ban, building the Wall). This will go nowhere UNLESS there are a bunch of GOPe types who think they can get the veep to go along with the coup. Clearly Cruz would be such a person, and unfortunately I think Newt would too. (I never know how much of Newt is Newt and how much is Callista, but I don't minimize her potential for mischief). Pence, in this way, is safe. I don't think he's THAT ambitious.

4. The death of the "neverTrumpers" (please don't give them or the BlacKKKlivesMatter a hashtag of publicity if you tweet!) was a thing to behold. It came, in retrospect, REALLY easily and it shows several things. First, it shows how brilliant and focused Paul Manafort is and why Trump was 100% correct to sack Lewandowsky and put in Manafort. Manafort knew he had this rules vote, but nevertheless left no stone unturned in nailing down the votes. On Tues. neverTrumpers were thinking they could get 28 votes and Erick The Red Erickson was boasting about being able to get the vote.

They got 12. It wasn't close. Two of those were Mike Lee and his wife. This betrayal should NOT ever be forgotten. Anyway, this was a humiliation, not just a beating, for the neverTrumpers. Of course, little Benji Shapiro and Guy Benson are all over the place on Twitter posting as much anti-Trump stuff as they can. But it's clear who'se running the convention, and it ain't the GOPe.

5. Cruz: This guy continues to mystify me. He's supposed to be smart. A smart general knows when to retreat, rebuild your army and try again later. Cruz is not only burning up this year's campaign, but with all his scheming likely damaging his reelection in TX, which is darned hard to do for a conservative.

6. Just spoke with a GOP official in OH about the Qpoll, and he gave me a sad anecdote from 4 years ago. We had a black guy running for auditor. He had a black woman come up to him, give him a campaign check, and ask for a yard sign. After the election he saw her again and asked if she voted for him. She said, "You weren't on the slate." The Dems had gone to every black church each weekend during "early voting," had a lunch, then loaded people up into a bus to go vote, giving them an all-Dem slate card and telling them "We know how you vote." This is not fraud per se, but shows what a job the GOP has in getting people to these events with their own slate cards.

That said, I find it hard to believe that any voter who wanted to vote for Trump would be persuaded or even intimidated by a stupid slate card. We'll see. I'm doing follow-up research on polling of blacks in OH and actual final % in November.

Finally, the polls have definitely and consistently shifted in Trump's direction. He still doesn't lead in a lot where he needs to lead, but again, if you adjust for "likely" voters instead of "registered" or "adults," Trump is probably ahead in almost every poll. I cannot figure out the methodology of a poll that says it polled "1300 adults and 1000 registered voters." What does that mean? They only COUNTED the registered? They interviewed 2300 people? We know that "adults" are about 4 points to the left of the final result, and that "registered" are about 2 points off. So anything with Cankles +2 or tied is already a Trump lead. And, again, most of these are done (still) with heavy D samples. (The Monmouth poll of IA was actually pretty accurate, D+5 with Trump up 2).


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KEYWORDS: cruz; gop; nevertrump; nice; terrorism; trump
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To: LS
Thank you for this article...fabulous as always...

As far as Cruz goes, his father is a fake, Cruz is a fake, the only thing that is true is his father came from Cuba, Ted was born in Canada and Ted has a mother...anything else beyond that I don't except...

He said he didn't know he was a Canadian citizen, he denounced it and now he doesn't have a Country to belong to...

The people of Texas are smart people, they won't make this mistake twice!!!

21 posted on 07/15/2016 10:03:20 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence; Trump/Pence; Trump/Pence 100%)
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To: LS

“Cruz: This guy continues to mystify me. He’s supposed to be smart.”

“Ted” (not his real name) Cruz is a PR illusion. A construct. A synthetic man-that-never-was.

He is a false front operation to gull naive conservatives into supporting neocon globalism.

That “Ted” is “smart” is just one of the facades of this particular Potemkin village, and one of the more rickety facades at that.


22 posted on 07/15/2016 10:03:27 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are at that point, where we stand with Leonidas, or slither with Ephialtes.)
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To: Fhios

“Jeb was simply manhandled and mauled by Trump. Trump destroyed him within a week of announcing his candidacy.”

Trump destroyed that DYNASTY, thank God!


23 posted on 07/15/2016 10:06:39 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are at that point, where we stand with Leonidas, or slither with Ephialtes.)
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To: LS
"The warmup can never upstage the headliner and stay on the tour," Spinal Tap photo: Spinal Tap captefee0513fc4542ab9d6pa5.jpg Leave the zucchini backstage?
24 posted on 07/15/2016 10:07:13 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: LS

islam is a criminal enterprise tenuously held together by a preponderance of ignorance and the threat of violence.


25 posted on 07/15/2016 10:10:34 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: LS

The mowing down of pedestrians- with a vehicle, is going to be followed by the mowing down of pedestrians- with an explosives filled vehicle. What good Muslim doesn’t see the Nice terrorist attack as a missed opportunity? As lethal as the killer was, his teacher probably graded him a C-, because of the lack of prior planning, with regards to the use of a bomb.

Expect an uptick in VBIEDs.

Shaheed.

The jihadi/lone wolf, might more aptly be described as a self starter/entrepreneur. After all, it is seen as an affirmative/positive career move for Muslims.

You got trouble, right here in River City.

Excellent observations. Keep on opining.


26 posted on 07/15/2016 10:15:44 AM PDT by freepersup (Trump is exposing the Fifth Column in the US!)
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To: LS

Also worthy of mentioning: Polling is probably highly-skewed because of the ANTI-TRUMP CONDESCENSION in the media and in people’s social groups.

So many people, will probably say “Undecided” if polled, rather than “Trump” - when asked. Peer pressure, polling pressure.

I have a hunch the Trump numbers are far greater than the polls show...


27 posted on 07/15/2016 10:17:30 AM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: LS

“There WILL be some talk of impeaching Trump the minute he does something decent (Moslem ban, building the Wall). This will go nowhere UNLESS there are a bunch of GOPe types who think they can get the veep to go along with the coup. “

ok, you talked me into Pence.


28 posted on 07/15/2016 10:22:54 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: RinaseaofDs; LS
First, let me say thank you for posting this. You bring something to the forum others can’t, and for that I am grateful.

LS, I took this line from R's comment because he said just about everything I wanted to say after reading your post.

You're right at the top of any list of FReepers that I respect most and I greatly value your wisdom and opinions.

Thanks for sharing them with us.

29 posted on 07/15/2016 10:23:52 AM PDT by Nacho Bidnith (America is a country founded by geniuses and run by idiots. Trump 2016)
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To: Psalm 144; LS
One can be "smart," and still be misled by an emotion driven ambition, fueled in part by a serious of rationalizations, served by someone you trust, as divine inspiration.

Cruz is a tragic figure. Once we get past the Convention, if he is over his spoiled brat tantrum (I say "if"), we should drop the subject. From here to November, it needs to be all out for Donald Trump, and restoring that America to which the Founders dedicated their lives, their fortunes & their sacred honor.

30 posted on 07/15/2016 10:24:18 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: LS; Jim Robinson

Pence was not my first or second choice, but there’s a reason Donald J. Trump is on top of the world and I’m not.

He’s been my guy for 13 months, I trust him completely.

Let’s roll!


31 posted on 07/15/2016 10:27:03 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The polls can have a strong influence on the weak-minded)
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To: LS

I think you are right but this is what must be recognized. This is a tough thing to face.His entire reputation is at stake.

Deuteronomy 18:15-22

15 The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet* like me from among your own people; you shall heed such a prophet.* 16This is what you requested of the Lord your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly when you said: ‘If I hear the voice of the Lord my God any more, or ever again see this great fire, I will die.’ 17Then the Lord replied to me: ‘They are right in what they have said. 18I will raise up for them a prophet* like you from among their own people; I will put my words in the mouth of the prophet,* who shall speak to them everything that I command. 19Anyone who does not heed the words that the prophet* shall speak in my name, I myself will hold accountable. 20But any prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, or who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded the prophet to speak—that prophet shall die.’ 21You may say to yourself, ‘How can we recognize a word that the Lord has not spoken?’ 22If a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord but the thing does not take place or prove true, it is a word that the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; do not be frightened by it.


32 posted on 07/15/2016 10:34:16 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: LS

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/winners-and-losers-from-gop-platform-rules-meetings/ar-BBunnYg?li=BBnb7Kz


33 posted on 07/15/2016 10:42:21 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Ohioan

“Ted” isn’t smart. He is still the adolescent talking about his butt cheeks and world domination, although now he has moved on to the copulatory allure of rodents. He apparently boasted repeatedly at Harvard Law about having a 150 IQ. In that setting, that might have been high end average at best. Factor in social IQ and wisdom, and he is sub par to the general population. His oratory is execrable, his voting record has advanced globalism, and his records - like Obama’s - are sealed.

He is a construct. He is someone’s sockpuppet. His spouse and his prompt response to the beck and call of Jeb Bush tells me whose sockpuppet he is, at least in a general sense.

I will never let up on him. He is a discovered mole; the enemy within. He must be neutralized. Felito delenda est.


34 posted on 07/15/2016 10:42:51 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are at that point, where we stand with Leonidas, or slither with Ephialtes.)
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To: Ouderkirk

“islam is a criminal enterprise tenuously held together by a preponderance of ignorance and the threat of violence.”

It is the longest, most massive incident of domestic violence in history. A nation that was an Islam free zone, offering sanctuary to all those wanting out who would renounce Islam in its entirety would probably get a lot of takers, mostly women.


35 posted on 07/15/2016 10:44:50 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are at that point, where we stand with Leonidas, or slither with Ephialtes.)
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To: LS; HarleyLady27

Perhaps Pence can dislodge Fredo Cruz and his pony show attraction to the radical Beck type “conservatives”.

Cruz needs competition in that department.

Dana Bash is reporting at midnight last night TRUMP wanted out of this Pence pick. The Pence pick pleased Ryan and daily caller reports he will make a good “YES” man.


36 posted on 07/15/2016 10:45:03 AM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christ Rey! Public Education is the farm team for more Marxmsists coming, infinitum.)
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To: LS; HarleyLady27

Perhaps Pence can dislodge Fredo Cruz and his pony show attraction to the radical Beck type “conservatives”.

Cruz needs competition in that department.

Dana Bash is reporting at midnight last night TRUMP wanted out of this Pence pick. The Pence pick pleased Ryan and daily caller reports he will make a good “YES” man.


37 posted on 07/15/2016 10:45:17 AM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christ Rey! Public Education is the farm team for more Marxmsists coming, infinitum.)
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To: Jim Noble

I’m with you. I don’t see the attraction with Pence, but reminded myself I don’t have the same vantage point either.

Trump for the win!


38 posted on 07/15/2016 10:47:15 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are at that point, where we stand with Leonidas, or slither with Ephialtes.)
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To: tennmountainman

Cruz will never get a vote from this Texas household. He’s last week’s trash. The more he tries to push his way to the front, the further back he’s falling with everyone I know.

Hellary has lost the election. I don’t know anyone who wants her. A friend who travels for work says everyone he runs into is for Trump and that’s from all walks of life in different areas of the country. Many are from lower economic lifestyles who should be for Hellary and the promise of gov freebies so that’s an eye opener.

As for validity of polls, many lie to pollsters. I certainly do.


39 posted on 07/15/2016 10:47:48 AM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: RitaOK

I don’t think Pence even cares about Cruz...I think Pence at the time was thinking about running again for Gov. and his ‘handlers’ told him who to pick...he did so very weakly as I remember...

I think your going to see a different Pence being on the Trump team, your going to see a person who can speak right to the heart of the matter and without any hesitation...

Go.TRUMP/PENCE.GO!!! ALL THE WAY TO THE OVAL OFFICE!!!


40 posted on 07/15/2016 10:48:09 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence; Trump/Pence; Trump/Pence 100%)
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