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What if Obama Is Wrong About Islam
Townhall.com ^ | July 17, 2017 | Bruce Bialosky

Posted on 07/17/2016 6:26:48 AM PDT by Kaslin

A central tenet of President Obama’s argument regarding our national security is that we should not chastise all Muslims. He repeats often that Islam is a religion of peace. What we need to examine is whether that is just something he states over and over again -- hoping Americans will accept it as fact -- or whether that is actually true.

First, before anyone jumps off the high board let’s determine the parameters. Almost everyone reading this column and/or across the world wants to believe that Islam is a religion of peace. Except, of course, for some wing-nuts: some people who you can never convince of a thing or maybe some Muslims who believe they are directed to violence by their religion or their religious leader.

Next, President Obama has compared Christianity to Islam and gone back to the Crusades or other historical actions for the purpose of drawing comparisons. Others have criticized Islam for the militant actions going back to the 8th century. This is not about that. Likewise, we will not discuss any parts of the Koran to establish a position.

We will only examine the period after World War II. History will tell you that there was some coordination of the Islamic leaders in the Middle East with Hitler and Germany, but the world was at war and most everyone except for the Swiss chose sides.

Two significant actions happened subsequent to 1945:

1. The Islamic Republic of Pakistan (did not take that full name until 1956) was formed by British partition on August 14, 1947. Since that time, Pakistan has had four conventional wars with India. It is constantly on alert with minor skirmishes with India. It has been a questionable friend of the U.S., and its Western provinces are worldwide hot beds of terrorism.

2. In 1948, Ben–Gurion declared the existence of the State of Israel in an area Jews had been living for over 3,000 years. Since that time there have been four major wars, multiple Intifadas, constant military excursions and thousands of terrorist attacks against Israeli citizens by Islamic countries and Muslims. Only two Muslim countries have a peace treaty with Israel. The leader of one of those countries, after that peace treaty was agreed to, was assassinated.

And then there is the following:

3. Afghanistan has been in turmoil for over 40 years. Officially the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan was plunged into war after a Communist takeover in 1978. The U.S. backed the anti-Communists to no avail. That led to the Taliban beginning their control of the country in 1994. Other than their totalitarian actions toward the people of Afghanistan, particularly the women, they became a center and training base for worldwide terrorist organizations when the terrorists were not crossing over into neighboring Pakistan. Fifteen years after the U.S. took over the country post 9/11, it remains in turmoil and the murderous Islamic Taliban still roams the countryside.

4. Iran and Iraq are a special case. When they are not wreaking havoc across the globe, they stopped to have a war where they killed an estimated 1.5 million people. One cannot say they were killing Jews or Christians this time because they were killing each other as one side was Sunni and the other Shia Muslims. Someday the rest of us will understand why the difference is worth mass murder. When they were not fighting each other, they were killing or torturing their citizens and restricting their rights.

5. After finishing the murderous Iran-Iraq war, Iraq invaded its neighbor Kuwait where an estimated 4,200 Kuwaitis were killed and their oil fields seriously damaged. The U.S. led a force to take back the country in which there were over 20,000 Iraqi deaths and casualties on the side of the allies.

6. Islamic Syria is a special place where they have a dynasty of butchers, but butchers who use poisonous gas. The anointed son of a mass murderer, in an attempt to hold on to power, has murdered an estimated 250,000 of his own countrymen and ran another few million out of the country. The entire country is a disaster zone.

7. Egypt has a more limited violent history. Nasser led his country in three losing wars against Israel. His successor Sadat led one war before making a peace deal for which he was murdered. His successor, Mubarak, murdered thousands to stay in power. But he was a prince compared to the Muslim Brotherhood who succeeded him and installed a totalitarian government. Sisi then overthrew this group in a coup d’état. Finally, an Egyptian leader acknowledges there is a problem in Islam and calls for a reformation. The call for reformation would cause him to be called a moderate by most, but Obama has dissed him at every turn.

8. Libya features the history of Muammar Gaddafi who took over in a military coup d’état. Murder, recriminations, weapons of mass destruction, the death of Gaddafi and then a failed state where Americans were murdered. The country is currently a mess with ISIS terrorists roaming freely.

9. Of the estimated 60 terrorist groups on the U.S. State Department watch list, about five are not Islamic. A couple notable exceptions are the FARC in Colombia and the IRA in Ireland. The terrorists murdering people all over the world are led by those groups in the Terrorist Hall of Fame like Boko Haram, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Taliban and now the hot new murderers, ISIS. There are so many that splinter groups have splinter groups. Boko Haram has murdered more than 20,000.

10. In most Islamic countries in the Middle East and Northern Africa, Jews have been run out of the country and Christians are being either run out of the country or murdered.

11. If Islam is truly a religion of peace why are there so many violent attacks in the name of Islam during the holiday of Ramadan, which is one of the five pillars of Islam?

I could go on, but let’s focus for a moment on what is good in the Muslim world. There is Sisi in Egypt. There is the ever-wonderful King Abdullah II of Jordan. When you visit the U.A.E. you leave thinking if the Arab world were all like this, the world would be a vastly-nicer place to live. There appears to be a sign of moderation and actual democracy breaking out in Tunisia -- none of which was effected by the policies of the U.S. or Obama administration.

No one would make the case that all Muslims in the world are evil or murderers. That is another straw man that Obama creates to make his argument. What we would like to see is Obama actually make the case with bullet point examples supporting his assertion that Islam is a religion of peace.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: barack0bama; islam; middleeast; radicalislam
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1 posted on 07/17/2016 6:26:48 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

2 posted on 07/17/2016 6:29:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin
My feeling is that if you are muzzie, you are financing these killers...and let there be no doubt...they are in accordance with the commands of the same allah.

It's NOT a religion. It's a political system. You follow it and let other muzzies do the dirty work.

3 posted on 07/17/2016 6:30:53 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin

What if he’s wrong? He knows the true Islam from the Islamic fathers...
He knows the true Islam from memorizing the Satanic Koran in the Madrassa three years. That includes the Satanic “ kill the unbeliever” verses.

He knows Islam inside and out.


4 posted on 07/17/2016 6:31:09 AM PDT by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prison 2016)
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To: Kaslin

Islam has never been a religion of peace.
It has always been a religion of conquest and slavery.
All historical evidence backs that up.
Show me where or when Islam has been a religion of peace.
Islam has been at war with the rest of humanity since 622 A.D.


5 posted on 07/17/2016 6:32:35 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Kaslin

If?


6 posted on 07/17/2016 6:32:47 AM PDT by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Kaslin

What’s this “What if” crap?


7 posted on 07/17/2016 6:33:05 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Blue on Black, match on a fire)
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To: Kaslin

It would be like him denouncing his own ‘religion’ and Allah.


8 posted on 07/17/2016 6:33:11 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Kaslin

9 posted on 07/17/2016 6:33:25 AM PDT by Enchante (Hillary's new campaign slogan: "Guilty as hell, free as a bird!! Laws are for peasants!")
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To: Kaslin

Its Obama Taqiya.


10 posted on 07/17/2016 6:33:43 AM PDT by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prison 2016)
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To: Let's Roll
Like the say: If the word if...
11 posted on 07/17/2016 6:35:32 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needI have beeed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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12 posted on 07/17/2016 6:36:27 AM PDT by Enchante (Hillary's new campaign slogan: "Guilty as hell, free as a bird!! Laws are for peasants!")
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To: Kaslin

The trial of Islam has already concluded. A reasonable society should give Muslims only two options: deconvert, or die.


13 posted on 07/17/2016 6:37:34 AM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: Kaslin

religion of peace

psyops on a subdued citizenry

#memes


14 posted on 07/17/2016 6:38:50 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Kaslin
Those who worship the murderous, warmongering, pillaging, slave-capturing, butchering, pedophilic, psychotic rapist Mohammed, have a moral duty to repudiate and condemn him, or go to Hell with him.

Mohammed was Charlie Manson without the humanity, only with more money and less musical talent. Except that Charlie Manson, as far as we know, never raped any children.

And to those who respond by saying "violence has been committed in the name of all religions through the centuries," I ask: "How many people did Jesus kill? How many slaves did Jesus own? How many women did Jesus rape?"

The Five Pillars of Islam:
Murder
Slavery
Rape
Torture
War

Sorry, liberals. There's only 1 interpretation of Islam — Muhammad's

15 posted on 07/17/2016 6:39:02 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Kaslin
As was Bush & Clinton before him, which is why Donald Trump was chosen. However, Bruce Bialosky misses the elephant in the room. Suppose Obama knows he is wrong, and knew that Clinton & Bush before him were also wrong. Then he is guilty of treason and murder.

But no, we just can't go there, can we!!

16 posted on 07/17/2016 6:39:48 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Kaslin

preparation of the battlefield


17 posted on 07/17/2016 6:40:13 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Travis McGee

If?

If?

Dorkbama the Muslim dick knows exactly what Islam is.


18 posted on 07/17/2016 6:40:54 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Kaslin

“The U.S. backed the anti-Communists to no avail.”

News to me, the Communists, and the Afghans.

The anti-communists won, flat out. Most believe it greatly contributed to the fall of the Soviet Union.

After that misstatement of fact, I stopped reading.


19 posted on 07/17/2016 6:42:52 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Kaslin

Thank you for posting. Pretty good rundown of major points about violence of islam.


20 posted on 07/17/2016 6:45:53 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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