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The Polls Aren't Skewed
Fivethirtyeight.com ^ | 8/9/2016

Posted on 08/09/2016 8:44:42 AM PDT by baxtelf

We’ve reached that stage of the campaign. The back-to-school commercials are on the air, and the “unskewing” of polls has begun — the quadrennial exercise in which partisans simply adjust the polls to get results more to their liking, usually with a thin sheen of math-y words to make it all sound like rigorous analysis instead of magical thinking.

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At least worth giving a read.
1 posted on 08/09/2016 8:44:42 AM PDT by baxtelf
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To: baxtelf

Sadly I agree, its simply impractical to think that they are all that far off. Is there time to change? of course... a lot can happen in that time. I sure as hell hope so...


2 posted on 08/09/2016 8:48:06 AM PDT by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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To: wyowolf
its simply impractical to think that they are all that far off.

Only if you believe that the pollsters are not trying to create an image to suit their bias. I cannot believe that.

3 posted on 08/09/2016 8:51:24 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Oil the gun, eat the cannolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: baxtelf

didn’t fivethirtyeight have a very serious credibility problem as trump won primary after primary? primaries this upstart company predicted he would lose?


4 posted on 08/09/2016 8:53:05 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: baxtelf

After the 2012 “skewed polls” hysteria convincing us Romney had it locked up, complete with accompanying “more Romney yard signs” and “packed rallies” I’ve decided to check my poll skepticism at the door. And I donate regularly to the Trump campaign hoping he catches lightning in a bottle.


5 posted on 08/09/2016 8:53:09 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: baxtelf

Isn’t this the same organization that gave Trump virtually no chance to win the nomination and got the mid-terms so wrong?


6 posted on 08/09/2016 8:53:16 AM PDT by Jagman
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To: baxtelf

He certainly showed four years ago that he understands polls a lot better than the people who are “reweighting” the party support and “unskewing” the results.


7 posted on 08/09/2016 8:54:03 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: baxtelf

Isn’t 538 Nate Silver’s clown car?


8 posted on 08/09/2016 8:54:12 AM PDT by farming pharmer (www.sterlingheightsreport.com)
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To: wyowolf

The debates haven’t even started yet. Support for Cankles is, at best, lukewarm. There is time yet if the campaign gets its act together. No more room for extemporaneous F ups and mice nuts politics. Get that ground game going and energize the base, which do not include the traitor RINOs.


9 posted on 08/09/2016 8:55:02 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: Don Corleone

My concern is that we not fool ourselves into a false sense of safety. We need to work hard to make sure Trump wins and patting ourselves on the back is not getting the job done. If there is even a chance they are correct we need to work harder. I’d like to see a few ads from Trump. Here in FL I see 4-5 Clinton ones an hour and none for Trump.


10 posted on 08/09/2016 8:55:19 AM PDT by baxtelf
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To: baxtelf

It seems political commentators failed to learn their lesson from the 2012 election. If you recall many pundits and radio commentators were predicting that years polls were wrong-THEY WERE NOT WRONG.


11 posted on 08/09/2016 8:55:42 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: NohSpinZone

exactly... stop screwing around with the small stuff... go after hellery and her POLICY!!! and Hammer her on it every damn day!


12 posted on 08/09/2016 8:56:13 AM PDT by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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To: longtermmemmory
didn’t fivethirtyeight have a very serious credibility problem as trump won primary after primary? primaries this upstart company predicted he would lose?

Yeah liberal wimp boy Nate got it wrong 100% of the time ...every time.

13 posted on 08/09/2016 8:56:24 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: baxtelf

Other than to demoralize us, what purpose do threads like this serve?


14 posted on 08/09/2016 8:56:38 AM PDT by Artcore (Trump 2016!)
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To: wyowolf

“...its simply impractical to think that they are all that far off.”

Not really, when you consider the trillions of dollars at stake, and the fact that Trump will likely destroy the existing, corrupted power structure.

It’s not impractical at all, to think they’d do whatever it takes to keep Trump from winning.


15 posted on 08/09/2016 8:57:42 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: baxtelf
Are you peddling the NY slimes propaganda ?

The fact they been outed us the reason they spit out more desperate propaganda out .

get back to me when you tab tell why on two polls has it a dead heat and still these polls have their queen up by 15 points!!

who believes any of it when Gallup gave up political polls because they said it was all garbage !

think about it in the world of iphones now .
no data anymore folks

16 posted on 08/09/2016 8:57:42 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: BlueStateRightist

I could not agree more. In 2012 we heard all the same things about the polls, and I saw with my own eyes a wave of enthusiastic support at a Romney rally, including lots of energetic young voters. It seemed impossible that Obama would be reelected.

Well, we couldn’t have been more wrong.


17 posted on 08/09/2016 8:58:07 AM PDT by LittleSpotBlog
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To: BlueStateRightist

He did have it locked up.

What he didnt count in were a ton of retards that called themselves christians that stayed home because they didnt want to vote for a mormon.

Obamas vote totals were way down from 08. If these people had showed up, it would have been different.


18 posted on 08/09/2016 8:58:25 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: wyowolf

Brexit was losing by something like 9% in the telephone polls the night before it passed by 2% at the ballot box.


19 posted on 08/09/2016 8:58:50 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (This posting is a microaggression.)
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To: longtermmemmory

No, they didn’t. Their models predicted him winning many States. His one big miss was Bernie in Michigan.


20 posted on 08/09/2016 8:58:54 AM PDT by Jack Black (Dispossession is an obliteration of memory, of place, and of identity)
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