Posted on 08/09/2016 8:44:42 AM PDT by baxtelf
You can tell Gov. Romney is not a football fan.
Since when has the prevent defense EVER worked??
Romney had one job, to stop a conservative from getting the nomination. Mission Accomplished.
Pollsters today are like the buggy whip makers in the early 1900’s, facing economic devastation because they can’t poll many people. They are in a losing battle with social media.
Many of the so called pollsters have been Democrat Operatives for decades going back to when they predicted Carter would beat Reagan.
Now, they are trying to compete with cell phones, social media and the problem of less landline phones.
More and more people on both ends of the age spectrum do not have landline phones. They only have cell phones.
Does anyone with a cell phone ever answer any unknown numbers and specifically any 800 #’s?
Probably not.
We use no more robocalls on our two land lines. Zero pollsters have gotten through since we started using no more robocalls, 2 plus years ago.
None of our voting age relatives have received a call from any pollster this election. That is 20+ Trump voters.
Then, there is this on social media versus polls:
Social Media Patterns Show Trump Is Looking at a Landslide Victory
Gateway Pundit ^ | Aug 7th, 2016 | Jim Hoft
Posted on 8/7/2016, 8:32:37 AM by detective
Current polls show the race for President is much tighter than it really is. Ann Coulter warned us years ago in her bestseller Slander that Democrats and the liberal media always use polls to manipulate and discourage conservatives from voting. Thanks to social media there is more and more evidence that the polls are way off and if things stay as they are, Trump will win in a landslide!
It’s evident that, Hillary has a hard time filling a Union Hall or high school gym while Trump regularly turns people away from his stadium and arena venues.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3457347/posts
A final question have you or any Trump voters, you know, actually been polled this year?
My thinking is that there are going to be pubs who sit out or vote Hillary, and dems who sit out or vote Trump, so that’s a wash maybe. But I think maybe this cycle will have a lot of ‘never bothered about it before’ people, and they will probably swing Trump, I am thinking. I could be wrong. I guess I wouldn’t be absolutely shocked if it’s a landslide either way.
The racial angle could definitely be a partial motivator for some of that, if it happens and Trump gets a lot of ‘never bothered before’ types.
Freegards
Yep! Darkest before the dawn. Even Nigel Farage basically conceded before the actual Brexit vote, which ended up comfortably in their favor. I see that as a direct analog to this election.
At this point I trust nothing that is reported publicly by anyone. I think both campaigns have private polling that they pay for that is very accurate and they won’t reveal what those results are.
Can we get a +1 button?
Yes I agree. Regardless of polls to the contrary Hillary Clinton really is doing better with Blacks than Barack Obama and as per a recent Q-poll Trump is not getting a single Black voter in Pennsylvania and Ohio. Why of course that’s true. The FACT that CBS and NBC got caught corroborating with the DNC on polls and the New York Times said clearly and flatly that all media is actively working against, “Even if that means help Clinton - yes they said that) so of course a paid Democrat poll consultant is right in saying polls aren’t skewed - really? What else could we expect him to say? In 2014 the response to pollster calls dropped to 8% does that suggest room to cheat? Sure it does. Go away Natie.
Yes I agree. Regardless of polls to the contrary Hillary Clinton really is doing better with Blacks than Barack Obama and as per a recent Q-poll Trump is not getting a single Black voter in Pennsylvania and Ohio. Why of course that’s true. The FACT that CBS and NBC got caught corroborating with the DNC on polls and the New York Times said clearly and flatly that all media is actively working against, “Even if that means help Clinton - yes they said that) so of course a paid Democrat poll consultant is right in saying polls aren’t skewed - really? What else could we expect him to say? In 2014 the response to pollster calls dropped to 8% does that suggest room to cheat? Sure it does. Go away Natie.
Why is all this BS being posted 24/7 There are numerous articles explaining how and who are skewing these bogus polls. I, for one, am growing weary of seeing them on here.
http://investmentwatchblog.com/all-polls-favoring-clintons-candidacy-are-fake-here-is-how-to-tell/
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-30/clinton-lead-over-trump-surges-after-reuters-tweaks-poll
Judging how an election will turn out by the number of a politician’s Twitter followers is even worse than judging by the number of yard signs you see around town. At least anyone with a yard sign is likely going to vote for that candidate. I’m sure there is a large percentage of people who follow Trump on Twitter just for the entertainment factor, who wouldn’t cast a vote for him in a million years. There is zero predictive outcome from social media presence—otherwise we would be swearing in President Kim Kardashian.
Unfortunately, we’ve more of less got proof - not just speculation and wishful thinking - that the MSM is colluding with the Clinton campaign. We saw that with the Wikileak DNC emails.
The polls smell. There’s no doubt about it. And that’s not just a “hope so” statement.
Rush said something very interesting yesterday on his radio that stuck to my mind like glue. He mentioned a New York’s Times reporter who was lamenting the fact that trump had forced him into writting articles of hate against him and that the whole media establishment was also in the same boat!The media are out to destroy trump that is no mystery that is not a hidden agenda anymore it’s in full blown display on every news cable! With that said ..what makes it so sure that even the polls don’t have an agenda driven skewed polls?! I’m just not believing anything right now! It’s to devious it’s to impractical it’s to out in the open! The mediawhores have repeatedly made it known they are out full guns the blaze to destroy trump his business his children and grandchildren! Their hatred for trump is off the charts! I have never in my life in all the dedicated years as a voter, have I ever witnessed anything like this! And it’s only going to get dirty or nasty! The mediawhores are ruthless and they will stop at nothing. I made this comment in another post here..it rings true then and it rings true now ....why even make the effort to go out and vote for representatives anymore if the media has taken the position of dictating to America how to run the country! We don’t need no stinkin representatives ...we’ve got the mediawhores to run our lives! Sometimes it seems that they have more power in their little filthy pinky then God Almighty has in His whole hand! So with that said and you yourselves have witnessed the news channels blatantly without even a smidgen of trying to hide their venom hatred towards trump are in the schizophrenic drive to destroy trump..so with that in mind what makes us so sure that the pollsters aren’t in the same frame of mind?! That my Freeper friends is my two cents worth!
Yes and no. The reputable polling houses that had Obama up 2-4% in the two weeks before the election were not wrong.
The MSM polling that had Obama up 10-15% was.
Create a Narrative its Over to
Depress Trump supporters.
Its the same strategy every news cycle ,
the 2014 results vs the polls were way off but every run around quoting November 2012 polls to justify August 16 polls.
its not a comparison at all .
plus Bozo the Muslim
was an incumbent do it a easy call
Of course they are far off, the methodology shows that they are heavily weighted to the Democrats.
No, it’s not. Do you actually look at these? I do. D+6, 7, even 10 and higher samples.
Gallup says we are a 30, 30 D/R nation, but I would give Ds a 4-5 point registration edge. Even then, this stuff is outrageous. Rs at 23% in one poll? NO millennials AT ALL interviewed in CNN/ORC? Suffolk/ABC asking for “youngest voter in the home?” Come on.
This is out and out deliberate falsification of data. There are four likely voter polls and they average a 2 point difference, and I think even that is BS.
But I ran some numbers. GOP turned out 30-31m primary voters. Assume Trump gets 85% of them, and that each turns out 1 other voter (family member, friend).
Dems got 27m voters (so they out of the gate have to make up 3 million!!). Assume that Cankles gets 90% of them, and they each turn out 1 more.
Trump has the edge.
Now assume that Trump has a 55-45 lead among Indies (which even most of these polls admit he has-—it’s 5-20). He would come in with 62.5m votes, Cankles with 59. But tweak ANY of those numbers-—Trump gest 87% GOP, Cankles only gets 89% Dem, you’re looking at a 65m Trump turnout-—what Obama had in 2012.
Work for a polling company!:)
Were the polls right in 2014 when the Democrats were hammered in the Senate and House races?
Romney had no stomach for the presidential race and had a real problem with the Evangelical voter who refused to vote for a Mormon.
How quickly people forget those little facts!
Defeating an incumbent President is virtually impossible, and Romney was a 'me too' candidate.
What hurt Romney was turnout, not the polls.
a few more % of the White, Evangelical vote and he wins the election.
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