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Ancient Genealogical Records Prove King David’s Descendants Are Alive Today
http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/74034/king-davids-descendants-ready-rebuild-davidic-kingdom-jerusa ^ | 08/16/16 | Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz

Posted on 08/17/2016 6:52:06 AM PDT by kindred

By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz August 16, 2016 , 12:30 pm

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“Then I will establish the throne of thy kingdom over Yisrael for ever; according as I promised to David thy father, saying: There shall not fail thee a man upon the throne of Yisrael.” I Kings 9:5 (The Israel Bible™)

image: http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/king-david-harp.jpg King David fresco by Tarquinio Ligustri (1603). (Renata Sedmakova / Shutterstock.com)

King David fresco by Tarquinio Ligustri (1603). (Renata Sedmakova / Shutterstock.com)

It might come as a shock to many to learn that hundreds of descendants of King David are alive today, with verifiable family trees dating back 90 generations, and that the royal Davidic dynasty could potentially be established today in Israel.

Though some may be skeptical of the genealogical proof, many secular researchers of genealogy have studied the line of David. The research is facilitated by the fact that a number of European monarchs throughout history have gone to great lengths to prove family ties to the Davidic Dynasty, and a solid ancestry has been established.

Within the Jewish community, genealogical studies have shown several families that can claim descent ben akhar ben (father to son) in a direct line, most notably the Dayan, Shealtiel and Charlap/Don Yechia families. Most of these families come from Aleppo, Syria.

Susan Roth founded the Davidic Dynasty organization in 2000 to gather and reunite Davidic descendants in the Holy City of Jerusalem. Roth has a personal interest as well, tracing her lineage back to King David through Rabbi Shlomo Yitzchaki, the preeminent 11th century French Torah scholar known by the acronym Rashi.

Her registry currently lists approximately 150 descendants who have verifiable descent to King David. However, efforts to introduce this reality into mainstream Judaism have met with surprising resistance.

When she first compiled her list, Roth contacted Israel’s Chief Rabbinate to inform them of her registry but, surprisingly, they expressed no interest.

“They were shocked, but they never followed up. My interest was simply to do God’s will, but they understood it as a political agenda. They don’t want King David’s dynasty and they don’t want Moshiach (Messiah),” Roth told Breaking Israel News.

“Even though it is clear Moshiach is here. He is just hiding,” she added.

image: http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/mitch-dayan-273x300.jpeg Mitch Dayan claims descent from King David. (Courtesy) Mitchell Dayan (Courtesy)

One of her discoveries was Mitchell Dayan. In 1983, Dayan was mourning for his brother. Amazed at the number of visitors who claimed to be from his family, he began to research his genealogy. Dayan’s research led him to a book called Yashir Moshe, a commentary on Song of Songs written in 1864 by Rabbi Moshe Dayan. In the prologue to the book, the rabbi lists his genealogy, leading back to King David. In this list, Mitchell found the name of his great grandfather from Aleppo.

Another genealogic list was found in the Cairo geniza, a storehouse of over 300,000 Jewish documents discovered in the late 1800’s. The two lists were almost identical, despite the Cairo list being compiled hundreds of years earlier. Through these sources, Mitchell Dayan was able to verify his lineage back 87 generations to King David.

image: http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/wp-content/uploads/useful_banner_manager_banners/433-BIN%20Sign%20Up%20-%20600.jpg Stay up to date with all your Prophecy News! “The actual descendants may not know it but there are descendants of King David alive today,” Dayan told Breaking Israel News. “This was prophesied in the Bible but it is also fact. Politics are irrelevant. It is going to happen, one day or another.”

For thus saith Hashem: There shall not be cut off unto David a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Yisrael. Jeremiah 33:17

In 2005, another Dayan, Rabbi Yosef Dayan, was recognized by the nascent Sanhedrin as a direct descendant of King David and, as such, a candidate to re-establish the Davidic Dynasty. Similar to Mitchell Dayan, his discovery came as a result of a death in the family.

Soon after he immigrated to Israel in 1968, Rabbi Dayan buried his grandfather in Jerusalem. He was surprised to see inscribed on the headstone the words “M’Bet David” (from the house of David). Rabbi Dayan discovered that this inscription was a family custom dating back to their origins in Aleppo.

Several years later, Rabbi Dayan received an antique document from a cousin which lists his genealogy, showing him to be the 89th generation from King David. This document was verified by Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu, the former Chief Sephardi Rabbi of Israel.

“This concept of family tradition is not surprising,” Rabbi Dayan told Breaking Israel News. “The Kohanim (priests) have a family tradition that they are descended from Aaron the Priest, well before King David, and this tradition is totally accepted by the rabbis. This tradition has been proven accurate by DNA testing.”

Rabbi Dayan is disappointed by the lack of acceptance by rabbinic authorities and mainstream Judaism.

image: http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/yosef-dayan.png Rabbi Yosef Dayan. (Screenshot) Rabbi Yosef Dayan. (Screenshot)

“Just as the Kohanic tradition is accepted, the same should be true for the descendants of King David, but even more so,” Rabbi Dayan said. “We have written family trees, and our tradition is engraved on gravestones for the offspring to take note of their ancestry.”

Breaking Israel News asked Rabbi Dayan why he thought there exists so much resistance to acknowledging the Davidic Dynasty.

On why there exists so much resistance to acknowledging the Davidic dynasty, Rabbi Dayan explained, “There is a basic error in understanding the Kingdom of David.

“The Moshiach is already here. Moshiach in Hebrew means ‘anointed’. It is not a miracle. The family of David exists and is waiting for Israel to choose one and anoint him.

“By claiming incorrectly that there are no living descendants of King David, the Moshiach becomes dependent upon a miracle from heaven, thereby absolving the rabbis from any responsibility for taking action to bringing the Messiah.”


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To: Adder; kindred

“showing him to be the 89th generation

So what does that mean? Literal generations, like each one about 70 years? 6230 years ago?”


No, that is NOT what is meant. How old was your father when you were born? 25? 30? 35? How old was your grandfather when your father was born? Etc., etc., through the ages. I don’t know the precise number of years in a generation (even population scientists disagree, and there is tremendous variations based on the time period, culture, world events, etc.), but I would venture to say something like 30-33 1/3 years. So 89 generations would be somewhere between 2670 and 2966 years. King David lived about 3,000 years ago, so this is plausible. In my own family, there is a separation of 141 years between my father’s, father’s father (born 1863) and my son (born 2004). 4 generations in 141 years is 35.25 years per generation - so if that pattern continued for 89 generations you’d be at 3,137 years - before King David’s birth.

70 years is the Biblical length of a typical life (once you got past the childhood diseases) free of combat, NOT the length of time between generations.


21 posted on 08/17/2016 8:05:34 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Blennos

Please see #21. 20-25 years is too short. That may be the typical time when a person has their first child, but it is far from the time of the last child. Many people (especially men, and this particular subject is about patrilineal descent) have kids in their late 30s and even in their 40s - and this has been the case going back thousands of years. Average the age of the father when his youngest and his oldest child are born, and THAT will be the length of an average generation. Likely, the average is somewhere around 30 - 33 1/3 years.


22 posted on 08/17/2016 8:08:42 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: pabianice

“This is offensive.”


WHAT is offensive - an article discussing a small number of Jews who can trace their descent back to King David?


23 posted on 08/17/2016 8:12:25 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: pabianice

Why is this offensive?

I think it’s neat!


24 posted on 08/17/2016 8:15:32 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: Ancesthntr
Please see #21. 20-25 years is too short. That may be the typical time when a person has their first child, but it is far from the time of the last child. Many people (especially men, and this particular subject is about patrilineal descent) have kids in their late 30s and even in their 40s - and this has been the case going back thousands of years. Average the age of the father when his youngest and his oldest child are born, and THAT will be the length of an average generation. Likely, the average is somewhere around 30 - 33 1/3 years.

This makes sense. Thanks.

25 posted on 08/17/2016 8:17:47 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: Oberon

Which “sealer” was your ancestor?


26 posted on 08/17/2016 8:21:12 AM PDT by MHT (,`)
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To: kindred

The generations are not computed but each generation has names, birth and death stats. Real people and families.


27 posted on 08/17/2016 8:21:52 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: kindred

Taking just one of David’s children, Solomon, who is reported as having seven hundred wives and three hundred concubines, this is no surprise. Even if those numbers are inexact, it would be amazing if none of them had surviving descendants.


28 posted on 08/17/2016 8:40:17 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: MHT
Which “sealer” was your ancestor?

I'm uncertain of that, but I'm descended from 14 of the approved "gateway ancestors" referenced by the Baronial Order of Magna Carta on their website.

Oh, and John Lackland. Wouldn't want to leave him out.

29 posted on 08/17/2016 8:41:48 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: Tennessee Nana
there must be MILLIONS of descendants...

If there were only hundreds, they would have to be as inbred as British royalty.

30 posted on 08/17/2016 8:42:45 AM PDT by AZLiberty (A is no longer A, but a pull-down menu.)
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To: Adder
showing him to be the 89th generation

So what does that mean? Literal generations, like each one about 70 years? 6230 years ago?

Actually you don't need to consider a full 70 years as a generation. One generation to another is between the child bearing age of each married couple. It is about ten generations of my family that have been in America. This probably averages out to 30 years between each generation. My great grandfather fought in the Civil War which illustrates much older generations. My father was the youngest son of my grandfather's second wife.

31 posted on 08/17/2016 8:43:12 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - vote Trump 2016)
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To: kindred
Efforts to introduce this reality into mainstream Judaism have met with surprising resistance

At least they're consistent. They reacted the same way to David's most famous descendant.

32 posted on 08/17/2016 8:55:26 AM PDT by katana
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To: kindred
The research is facilitated by the fact that a number of European monarchs throughout history have gone to great lengths to prove family ties to the Davidic Dynasty, and a solid ancestry has been established.

So . . . was W. Herbert Armstrong and the "Worldwide Church of God" right about the Queen of England after all?

http://www.biblemysteries.com/library/queen.htm
33 posted on 08/17/2016 8:55:31 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: Ancesthntr
I made my post 31 before I read your post. My observations about my own family substantiate your figures. Pretty cool.

I should note that the Civil War forestalled my great grandfathers parenting by about five years. Other wars or similar disasters through the ages may have had the same effect on some generations.

34 posted on 08/17/2016 8:56:58 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - vote Trump 2016)
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To: kindred

The Jews don’t need anyone from the House of David - they need Levites so they make the appropriate sacrifices on the Mount.


35 posted on 08/17/2016 8:58:09 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Little Ray

David’s grandmother, Ruth, was a gentile. So David’s descendant and the Messiah (Jesus) is relevant to both gentiles and Jews. I’ve always loved this!


36 posted on 08/17/2016 9:02:06 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Little Ray

“The Jews don’t need anyone from the House of David - they need Levites so they make the appropriate sacrifices on the Mount.”


The second part is true, the first part...uh, not so much.

The long-promised Messiah (Moschiach) who will bring peace to the world, etc., etc. (he’s got a BIG job ahead of him) will be a man, and specifically a man descended through his father, grandfather, etc., etc. from King David, through David’s son, King Solomon. So, ultimately, YES the House of David is necessary.


37 posted on 08/17/2016 9:02:54 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Tennessee Nana

So do I get the Kings gold? : )


38 posted on 08/17/2016 9:24:35 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Ancesthntr

The offense is in calling Jews stupid or worse for not accepting Jesus as the Messiah.


39 posted on 08/17/2016 9:35:22 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: Ancesthntr

Did not the Christians there come from Jewish converts?


40 posted on 08/17/2016 9:40:35 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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