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Good info the bogus WA Post/ABC Poll.
1 posted on 09/12/2016 6:30:49 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

WE’ll know on Nov. 8. The real poll will be on how many of theirs don’t show up. Which Senate seat will WE STEAL? We’re too dumb to win Colorado but Nevada is not good enough.


2 posted on 09/12/2016 6:35:58 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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The headline writer can’t do math, and so makes a situation which is problematic for the poll . By the article’s own numbers, Democrats were indeed oversampled, but by 9 points, which translates into 41%, not by 141%. This was at the expense of independents and other, rather than Republicans, so it likely amounts to a 5 or 6 point difference—still enough to make a small Pub lead turn into a small Dem lead, but not enough to say that Trump is far ahead.


5 posted on 09/12/2016 6:40:49 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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About 6% of Americans USED TO believe what the LSM told them. That was BEFORE this campaign season! Gotta wonder why they continue to push lies when maybe 2% believe them....is it worth it?


6 posted on 09/12/2016 6:40:53 AM PDT by uncitizen (Americanism NOT Globalism! - Trump)
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To: NKP_Vet

Bezos hates Trump.


8 posted on 09/12/2016 6:47:37 AM PDT by libh8er
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A 14% Rat oversample and they still only managed to get a 5% lead?


9 posted on 09/12/2016 6:49:32 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Only idiot liberals believe that disarming the sheep makes them safe from the wolves.)
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Make that a 40% oversample.


10 posted on 09/12/2016 6:50:10 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Only idiot liberals believe that disarming the sheep makes them safe from the wolves.)
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The same silly pollsters had Carter up nine points on Reagan in mid-October of 1980. Then they explained Carter's 10-point loss on a late "Reagan surge."

Nonsense, Reagan had that election all the way. They were just gaming the polls as long as they possibly could so that they could demoralize the Reagan vote and discourage Democrats from crossing over.

If you look at the internals, you have to laugh. D+10? Even in 2012, Obama won with D+6 turnout. They will be lucky to see D+2 this go around.

Trump is also killing it among Independents. He's 20 points up among Independents in the recent Gallup poll. That's already 15 points better than how Romney did among them in 2012. That alone practically ensures a Trump victory. Add in the Democrat crossover, an energized GOP turnout and a depressed Democrat turnout (as we saw in the primaries) and you have your landslide.

11 posted on 09/12/2016 6:51:32 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (It is a wise man who rules by the polls but it is a fool who is ruled by them)
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She may be rising in the polls again. The sympathy vote is totally irrational and very strong among women and some men.


13 posted on 09/12/2016 6:55:33 AM PDT by arthurus
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Shhhhh... they are making a mistake by doing so.... and I’ll not reveal the consequence.


18 posted on 09/12/2016 7:07:23 AM PDT by Clutch Martin
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To: NKP_Vet
There were 41.67% more Democrats than Republicans, not 141% more. Rather the size of the Democrat sampling is about 141% of the Republican sampling.

If we take the 93% certain to vote for Republicans and 80% certain to vote for Democrats and guesstimate that means exactly 93% of the 26% of the electorate that are registered Republicans will vote, and exactly 80% of the 29% who are Democrats, this would mean about 4% more Republicans than Democrats would vote (which would translate very roughly to about a 1% to 1.5% advantage in total popular vote--depending on ratio of Republicans and Democrats to others voting).

These are rough assumptions, but the picture is very good for Trump if one considers he seems to consistently lead among independents. But I have also seen numbers suggesting he might not do as well among Republicans as Hillary does among Democrats...although I think the difference is not as strong as the difference in independents.

My guess is that if the election were somehow today, Trump would win. But I suspect on November 8 he will win by a wider margin than he would today. My suspicion (which I have had for months) is that Hillary would poll mostly ahead until the debates when she would collapse and Trump would win in a landslide. As far as I can tell my suspicions have played out pretty well so far...

21 posted on 09/12/2016 8:27:20 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Hating Islam is the natural consequence of caring about people in the Middle East, including Muslims)
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The odds of anyone of us trusting the Washington Post or ABC News is ZERO. I mean George Stephanopoulos RAN THE CLINTON WAR ROOM FOR BILL CLINTON. It’s beyond being ‘in the tank’ for Clinton - Stephanopoulos IS THE TANK....


22 posted on 09/12/2016 9:13:39 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Alinsky Rule #12 “Proud to be in the Basket of Deplorables”" freeper TexasTransplant)
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To: LS; NKP_Vet

This poll is all over mid-day Fox News, the anti-Trump hours.

This poll also had a 4.5% MOE even with the oversampling. IOW, the 5 point lead was barely outside the MOE.

It also says that when a phone was answered it immediately asked to speak to the youngest member of the household. Presumably that means youngest voting aged person, but it doesn’t really say that. Maybe they’re using the youngest member to report the behavior of the other members of the household.

It all is so bizarre.


23 posted on 09/12/2016 9:36:46 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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BTW, new Utah poll out. Safe for Trump 39-24.


29 posted on 09/12/2016 10:34:43 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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