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New USGS study shows heat retaining concrete and asphalt have encroached upon US Climate Stations
Watts Up with That? ^ | September 22, 2016 | By Anthony Watts

Posted on 09/22/2016 7:13:02 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

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1 posted on 09/22/2016 7:13:02 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Duh, everyone knew that years ago.


2 posted on 09/22/2016 7:14:23 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: VTenigma

That’s what I thought.

This was exposed years ago.


3 posted on 09/22/2016 7:16:15 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

How did this administration ever let that report out?

It unsettles the settled science.

Heresy.


4 posted on 09/22/2016 7:16:35 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Brad from Tennessee

It took two government paid scientists to figure out that a thermometer above a concrete slab may not be completely accurate.


5 posted on 09/22/2016 7:17:05 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Now add in the fact we know they placed temp sensors in some very awful places, like next to heat exchangers and next to exhaust vents and such, and you can see how the “data” has been deliberately manipulated.


6 posted on 09/22/2016 7:17:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Just stand on asphalt in the summer


7 posted on 09/22/2016 7:17:33 PM PDT by doug from upland (She is evil, corrupt, and brain damaged.)
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To: 2111USMC

This little known fact is kept little known.


8 posted on 09/22/2016 7:18:00 PM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Captain Obvious.


9 posted on 09/22/2016 7:29:15 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Own a rifle. Be an American.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Gee..., the "Brains" FINALLY wake up to the fact that if your data recording location has become surrounded by asphalt and concrete (Heat Island)..., perhaps...., your data is flawed! Garbage in Garbage Out!

There is NO positive correlation between education and common-sense (of course this has been known for EONS!)

10 posted on 09/22/2016 7:30:39 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Not only that, those blokes purposely put those sensors in unusually hot places.


11 posted on 09/22/2016 7:38:16 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Brad from Tennessee

It used to be adjusted for in the datasets.


12 posted on 09/22/2016 7:41:14 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Makes sense to me. In the city you can feel more heat radiating from the ground than you do in the country, and you will see all the small front lawns surrounded by concrete all brown in the summer, but drive out to the country and you’ll see the front 3-5 acre lawns looking pretty good that same time of year


13 posted on 09/22/2016 7:49:36 PM PDT by inchworm
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To: Brad from Tennessee

everything the gubbint touches it wrecks


14 posted on 09/22/2016 7:49:51 PM PDT by vooch
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To: SpaceBar

School children understand that.


15 posted on 09/22/2016 7:51:08 PM PDT by ully2
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To: Brad from Tennessee
"Wotta ya mean I shouldn't put it up here on the roof? It's easy to get here and the view is great. I think we'll just leave it here. Besides, it can't make that much of a difference."


16 posted on 09/22/2016 7:51:13 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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17 posted on 09/22/2016 7:51:19 PM PDT by Gideon7
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18 posted on 09/22/2016 7:54:01 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: Pearls Before Swine

How does “adjustment” even happen without a quintessential begging of the question (i.e. no solution to the set of equations)?


19 posted on 09/22/2016 8:01:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I believe there are many other factors as well...

One I recall right off the bat - there are standards for construction of a station, including what to paint it with.
The standard was oil-based paint, and the standard was changed at some point to latex paint. Turns out that change has a heat effect change as well... and, naturally, in the direction you’d expect if you wanted your stations to report higher temperatures over time. The phase-in of the paint change was gradual, as stations needed new coats of paint, or new stations get worked into the system, thus the overall increase in temperature was moderated (easier to hide, and portray as the glowbull warming they wanted).


20 posted on 09/22/2016 8:05:45 PM PDT by C210N
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