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New USGS study shows heat retaining concrete and asphalt have encroached upon US Climate Stations
Watts Up with That? ^ | September 22, 2016 | By Anthony Watts

Posted on 09/22/2016 7:13:02 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

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To: Brad from Tennessee

I have always said, if you want a better pizza over, put in more stones....(chuckle)


21 posted on 09/22/2016 8:09:52 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: C210N
regarding oil versus latex paint... I thought I saw it also on Wattsupwith that... and it was 10 years ago!

Bad Paint Job = Rising Surface Temperatures?

22 posted on 09/22/2016 8:09:58 PM PDT by C210N
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I’m surprised that a fan is not built into the system, so that all you get is temperature, not trapped air heat/cold.


23 posted on 09/22/2016 8:10:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The GISS adjustments always seem to go only one way: Down in earlier years and up in later years.
24 posted on 09/22/2016 8:13:23 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: C210N

Looks like the old formula was whitewash, which gets its white color from lime. This reflects IR unlike modern white paint pigments.


25 posted on 09/22/2016 8:16:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Gideon7

Enough fudge to stock a Willy Wonka chocolate river.


26 posted on 09/22/2016 8:18:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Are they prepping for the needed “global cooling” findings?


27 posted on 09/22/2016 8:40:15 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: Brad from Tennessee

It’s pretty obvious that whatever “global warming” we may be actually experiencing really comes from these concrete heat islands created by cities, large towns and highway systems - the so called “Smart Growth” the sophisticates like to push so that we can all live happily together within walking distance of all necessities to rid us of awful fossil-fueled vehicles - those of us living in the east watch the daily TV weather forecasts which always predict that temps in the regions of cities will be several degrees higher than those in the surrounding suburban and rural areas summer or winter - the real story of man made warming.....


28 posted on 09/22/2016 8:48:24 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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Just like the old report said....


29 posted on 09/22/2016 8:52:46 PM PDT by Clutch Martin
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To: Secret Agent Man

Around 1990, while living in Tucson, I took to jogging and would regularly make the circle around Reid Field (an entire city block). At the corner of 22nd Street and South Alvernon Way is a trailer, which sits on top of a concrete pad, surrounded by six to eight feet of gravel, and then you the six-lane asphalt street which meets the other six-lane asphalt street.

The trailer? It’s a one of the climate stations.

I stopped one day and admired the heat conduction around this trailer. Then I looked at the trailer itself. On one side next to the sensors....was an air conditioner which likely ran 24x7. My humble guess is that if you added up the AC unit, the concrete pad, the asphalt...it was a minimum of four degrees hotter than it would be on Reid field itself.

It never made any sense to me. You could have moved it 200 ft over and put a cover over the trailer to keep the heat less and put the sensors on the other side of the trailer away from the AC unit. It was like...a 4th grader planned this and had no idea what they were doing.

Ten years later, I was somewhere in Las Vegas and noticed on the outskirts of town....another such trailer....same deal. Someone should just start a public database and we all spend some time taking pictures and documenting these across the nation. It’s an embarrassment that we allowed these idiots to feed false data continually....for decades....as ‘true’ info.


30 posted on 09/22/2016 9:43:54 PM PDT by pepsionice
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Someone should just start a public database and we all spend some time taking pictures and documenting these across the nation.

Anthony Watts, the author of this article, started a project to do just that. Just when he was starting to organize people to do it the entire list of sites disappeared from the National Weather Service's website. Hmmm, I wonder how that happened.

I don't know what ever happened with that project.

31 posted on 09/22/2016 10:08:29 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (If Muammar Gaddafi had donated to the Clinton Foundation he would still be alive and in power today.)
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People have actually taken pictures of these stations set up in absurd conditions, just like you mention.


32 posted on 09/22/2016 10:09:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Anthony Watts, the author of this article, started a project to do just that. Just when he was starting to organize people to do it the entire list of sites disappeared from the National Weather Service's website. Hmmm, I wonder how that happened.

I don't know what ever happened with that project.


A few years old, but the results are still around -

http://www.surfacestations.org/

33 posted on 09/23/2016 1:08:30 AM PDT by az_gila
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To: Brad from Tennessee

As long as there’s money in it, folks will keep on flogging this fictitious ‘global warming.’


34 posted on 09/23/2016 1:11:07 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Another fundamental fact people should remember is that the primary CO2 monitoring station is located in Hawaii near an active volcano that coincidentally began erupting right when the “global warming” phenomenon supposedly started happening. So all the data they are using is contaminated and has to be “adjusted.” Of course, you can then adjust it to get any conclusion you want.


35 posted on 09/23/2016 1:28:54 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Bookmark.


36 posted on 09/23/2016 3:40:50 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Brad from Tennessee

No matter what the subject matter, If the data supports more government then it is “settled science”. If you disagree, you are at first a kook, then an anti-government subversive and if you persist, a terrorist.


37 posted on 09/23/2016 3:55:30 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Translation: We’ve been caught cooking the temperature data.


38 posted on 09/23/2016 4:24:43 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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To: kaehurowing

A high school could set up better science than this.


39 posted on 09/23/2016 7:30:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

A high school could set up better science than this.
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College corrects this......................


40 posted on 09/23/2016 7:37:52 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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