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There Are No 'Myths' Or Exceptions About Free Trade: It's Always Unrelentingly Good
Forbes ^ | Oct 9, 2016 @ 09:00 AM | John Tamny

Posted on 10/10/2016 4:05:47 AM PDT by expat_panama

For those who ever find themselves questioning the good of free trade, arguably the best cure for such a lapse of reason is a quick read of Henry Hazlitt’s Economics In One Lesson. In it Hazlitt wrote that “What is harmful or disastrous to an individual must be equally harmful or disastrous to the collection of individuals that make up a nation.”

Hazlitt’s powerful quote will cure Keynesians of just about everything they believe, including the horrid idea that war is good for the economy. As for conservatives who occasionally find themselves swimming in a protectionist direction, the Hazlitt quote is a cure-all. And it will perhaps save them from an op-ed similar to the one recently penned by Information Technology and Innovation Foundation president Robert Atkinson in National Review. In it he concluded that the merits of free trade are increasingly only known to ivory-tower based establishmentarians...

...Atkinson’s first error in an article filled with them was that he forgot that an economy is just a collection of people...

...industry critics’ claim that cutting prices wouldn’t affect R&D spending...

...At the end of the day, returns are determined by products’ future earnings, which depend crucially on price.

As a result, expectations around future prices drive investments for the same reason you would not put down $500,000 to build a house in a rapidly declining neighborhood if you hoped to sell your house for a profit one day. You have to be locked into your Ivory Tower without a key to believe that the venture capital and private equity firms who fund medical R&D do not care about future profitability in the same way. Because that’s pretty much all they care about, pricing drives R&D spending and not vice versa.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: babble; business; incoherence; investing; leftistdrivel; openborders; trade
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To: mythenjoseph

What you said is so obvious but so few seem to understand this basic economic reality.


21 posted on 10/10/2016 4:55:20 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: expat_panama

There is an aspect to “free trade” that I think is ignored. While borders “open to the flow of capital” is in ways a good thing the “little guy” gets trampled. Joe Six Pack can’t move his labor across borders overnight. Joe can’t pay his mortgage to a different bank each month. I hope you see what I am getting at here.

I don’t pretend to know what the answer is but I do know pretending a problem does not exist is what libtards do.


22 posted on 10/10/2016 4:56:40 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: mythenjoseph

It does not take intelligence to understand a nation that has a GDP that is overwhelmingly service industry is as fragile as can be. A puff can shatter it.


23 posted on 10/10/2016 5:04:23 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: expat_panama

Free trade among nations with equivalent laws and governmental structures may indeed be good for all, but “free” trade as instituted in the late 20th century is not innately “good” for all.


24 posted on 10/10/2016 5:17:34 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: expat_panama

There is no such thing as free trade in the modern world. Our “free” trade agreements are negotiated and signed by politicians and executed by bureaucrats. I would love to have real free trade, but what the politicians, bureaucrats and media call free trade is anything but. It is trade controlled and manipulated for the benefit of Wall Street and the globalists masquerading as “free.”


25 posted on 10/10/2016 5:19:39 AM PDT by LNV (Nov. 2016-Trump the B!tch!)
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To: expat_panama

The crux of the matter is defining “free.”. Our agreements are a joke, our negotiators incompetent or worse.


26 posted on 10/10/2016 5:21:10 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Thank you. THIS.

What these people keep bringing up is a straw man; and the straw man is a lie.

There’s a YUGE difference in being against free trade and being against getting screwed.

China’s deliberate devaluation on the Yuan is NOT free trade. Expecting the USA to take all your dumped items with prices lowered artificially with government aid while setting up hundreds of road blocks on American goods—or even outright restrictions—is NOT FREE TRADE!

Given that, you’d think these so-called Free Traders would be against those kinds of practices, no?

But not a peep for all these many years...


27 posted on 10/10/2016 5:23:44 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: expat_panama

Forbes & Co. have had 30 years to sell that idea to the American public.

The verdict is in. NO SALE!!!


28 posted on 10/10/2016 5:43:23 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: expat_panama
Calling it 'free trade' what is going on in the world today is like calling a relationship of two men or two women a marriage. You can call it what every you want, but it isn't a Marriage.

There is no Free Trade, anywhere, among any countries. What we have now are arrangements for corporations, not people.

Why does TSA want to know the amount of goods you brought back when traveling abroad, especially to a country that has a 'free trade' agreement with us? Corporations and all levels of government want their cut.

29 posted on 10/10/2016 5:44:41 AM PDT by deadrock (I is someone else.)
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To: expat_panama

Posting articles from The Onion?


30 posted on 10/10/2016 5:45:59 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: Alas Babylon!

The problem is that cheap chinese products help us maintain our standard of living. if we get aggressive, all the stuff we buy will cost more. Having said all that, I agree something must be done to level the playing field. Is it to late?


31 posted on 10/10/2016 5:51:37 AM PDT by refermech
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To: expat_panama
About Free Trade

The terminology confuses me.

What is the difference between free trade and fair trade?

32 posted on 10/10/2016 5:51:37 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
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To: impimp
If Trump softens his trade rhetoric then people who have taken college level economics classes will be more likely to vote for him.

Right from the get-go this article was bunk. We do not have free trade now, so your argument against Mr Trump not supporting "free trade" is meaningless. You do know that our current trade agreements have MANY THOUSANDS of special deals written into them, don't you? Didn't you learn in college not to trust what you are told but instead to investigate for yourself the facts in any matter?

When you graduate from college (because I'm assuming you have no real world experience here or you would already have been eaten by the sharks) I would suggest you find someone with age and experience to help you open your eyes and teach you how the real world works. And do it quickly.
33 posted on 10/10/2016 5:59:26 AM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: expat_panama

Not when it gives up sovereignty—then it is not good. And that’s what these recent omnibus deals have been doing, with TPP and a potential Euro deal aiming to take that even further.


34 posted on 10/10/2016 6:00:49 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: MosesKnows
What is the difference between free trade and fair trade?

That's a political question.    We don't use those buzz words in business, all we say is that import tax hikes take money away that we'd planned to use for hiring new workers.

 

35 posted on 10/10/2016 6:59:55 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: VanDeKoik
Between the U.S. and Canada, certainly extremely loose trade barriers makes perfect sense....

We need to understand that if the president suddenly abrogates NAFTA then Canada/U.S. commerce takes a hit.

36 posted on 10/10/2016 7:04:12 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: refermech

At some point another country or region of the globe will become the “new China”, and cheap stuff will get made there, instead.

The good side is, yes, cheap stuff is great for consumers—they don’t have to pay so much.

The bad side is what happens to the standard of living of a country that has/is bleeding jobs?

With a $20 TRILLION dollar debt (and rising), and a participatory rate of workers (re: TAXPAYERS) shrinking rapidly to historic levels, how can anyone who is jobless welcome a lifetime of government benefits when that very government is teetering on a financial debacle?

In other words, assistance would be gone in a serious government financial crisis. Just look at what happens when Congress and Obama feuded over the budget and created (him more than them) as government shutdown.

Cheap stuff bought elsewhere still has to be bought. If you have no job, no government assistance or help, then you have no money to buy cheap stuff.


37 posted on 10/10/2016 7:09:01 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: impimp
If Trump softens his trade rhetoric then people who have taken college level economics classes will be more likely to vote for him.

About half the U.S. has had some college and the other half hasn't.   The college half makes twice as much money as the other 50%.  None of this matters much for politics as both candidates are pushing for more tariff 'protection'.  From what I see import tax hikes will be a question for next year.

38 posted on 10/10/2016 7:11:09 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Unless you don’t make economic sense. Then it kind of sucks. But it’s gonna suck for those people one way or the other.


39 posted on 10/10/2016 7:15:12 AM PDT by discostu (If you need to load or unload go to the white zone, you'll love it, it's a way of life)
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To: expat_panama
... all we say is that import tax hikes take money away that we'd planned to use for hiring new workers.

American import taxes or another nation's import taxes?

If another country, with a large, middle class makes a myriad of things we buy and let in without import taxes, while applying all kinds of import taxes (in any other name--hindering that import of American goods), then is that not also going to take money away from hiring US workers?

40 posted on 10/10/2016 7:15:34 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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