VOTE TRUMP
Posted on 10/16/2016 1:10:18 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
Media cooking polls because they knows that for Hillary to win legitimately she has to get something very close to the Obama coalition to win the election outright.
They know that isn't going to happen, that the Hillary isn't Obama and that the enthusiasm gap isn't there for her in people excited to vote for her. She can't fill up a high school gymnasium. They do know that there is huge enthusiasm gap for those they are going to vote for Trump. So the media is trying to depress enough Trump supporters to not show up and vote to give Hillary some help.
That it's over and so why bother!
They also want to provide enough cover for when the Dems attempt to rig the election with voter fraud that when Trump complains and gear up his lawyers they will say that he and his supporters are crazy because Hillary had it in the bag and it's just sour grapes. They want to voting public to be numb to outright fraud and cooking the election numbers and that even if there is 'some' here and there fraud that Hillary is still the winner no matter what.
That’s the plan exactly. Good post.
To overcome that there is only one thing to do
Get Out The Vote
Are there any polls out there that are 40 D-40 R-20 I-—ish? That used to be the base ratio and even 42 D-38 R- 20I would even more acceptable. Placing Dems over 50 is invalid.
Your vanity would be 200% more meaningful with even one or two examples.
As it is, I wasted my time.
We can defeat the entire plan by doing just one simple thing - showing up to vote on November 8th.
This week’s polls’ internals...
WaPo D+8
Fox D+9
NBC D+12
Reuters D+15
NBC/WSJ Poll D+18.9
RCP should be tossing all these polls out due to explicit bias, but notice how they don’t.
Thank you!
That makes perfect sense. I thought it was just being skewed to make the fraud look acceptable, but if the polls show Trump losing by a large margin, then many may stay home.
I am praying for inclement weather (not dangerous) on November 8th, and for all Trump voters to stay the course.
Mr. Trump needs to warn people that this is the reason the polls are being skewed.
I will play Devil’s advocate here. We used the same argument in 2012 to dismiss polls showing Obama up because turnout model had more Democrats than Republicans, which we thought skewed the result in favor of Obama. I am hesitant to do that now. If turnout is large, as it tends to be for presidential elections, there will be a higher percentage of Democrats.
I’ve noticed that the polls haven’t been showing the un-decided vote.
Marko
Bill Mitchell: In 2012, Romney won 47% of the vote. In the new NBC/WSJ poll, respondents voted 32% for him, just a 15 point miss from reality. Nice.
Never mind a high school gymnasium. As one commenter quipped on a previous thread, she couldn't even fill up a telephone booth!!!
The only thing she can fill up is her depends.
I tried to ignore the whole D+ narrative this season based on being stunned on election night in 2012.
But if you remember we were complaining about polls not being R+ as we thought it would be a change election. That whole unskewing cottage industry used a E - R+2 (2004) turnout model. The polls were primarily using a D+3 turnout, and they showed Obama up by 1-2. But the election turned out to be D+6, less than Obama’s 2008 historic 2008 D+8 but still 3-4 more than polls were showing. Hence, Obama’s 4 point win.
So even though I felt that Hillary would never get the turnout of Obama, and feel it would be closer to D+3-4 (there are simply more Democrats than Republicans), I tried to stay away from the whole skewing conspiracy.
But with samples now D+8, D+9... and some D+12, it’s gotten so ridiculous that it’s plainly obvious what is going on.
Who really thinks Hillary, who can’t draw a fly to a rally, will turnout 50% more Democrats than Obama did in 2008? No one. It’s a big con job.
Obama 69,498,516 52.93%
McCain 59,948,323 45.65%
other 1,866,981 1.42%
Source: http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2008/tables2008.pdf
So, this means that all the MSM is claiming that Hillary is running for an even bigger landslide than Obama over McCain.
According to Reuters and NBC, over twice as big.
Reagan beat Mondale 54,455,075 to 37,577,185 (59% to 41% or +18 according to https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/scores.html)
So that means NBC is assuming Clinton is over bush by MORE than Reagan's 49-state landslide.
Even Monica Lewinsky wouldn't swallow that.
Pure insanity on their part.
And what’s even more disgusting is that no Republican talking heads point out exactly how these polls are cooked with specific examples when they’re out doing their thing - I can see undercover partisans like Larry Sabato, who surely knows enough about polling to be aware of what’s happening, continuing to spout about how Trump is behind, but Kellyanne Conway’s firm is named “The Polling Company” - she must know how badly these things are off base - unless they’re happy to let everyone think Trump’s not doing all that well now so he can appear to build momentum in a week or two....
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