The Elite "Have No Idea" - Society Is Near The Breaking Point

Zero Hedge ^ | October 14, 2016 | Tyler Durden

[ought-six]

Yup.

[ought-six]

Actually, your attitude is exactly what America needs.

[ripley]

“The Elite Have No Idea...”

Change that to the scu&bags have no idea.

They’ve engaged in every manner of perfidy and subversion to gain what they thought was their “economic well-being”.

They’ve destroyed psyches, families, and not least of all,
The Constitution.

Will these scu&bags reap what they’ve sown? One can only hope.

Just saying.

IMHO

[tbw2]

I had an argument with several research post-docs regarding their utopian vision of what people will do when we get rid of all the jobs.
* Just because you find such work boring and demeaning doesn’t mean those with an average or below average IQ do. In fact, it gives them social status, purpose and interaction. Your biases are clouding your decision on what is best for these people.
* You imagine a paradise when many jobs are eliminated. Want a real life precursor? The inner cities already relying heavily on welfare with drugs, crime, broken families, despair. And by driving automation on purpose regardless of the human cost, you’re creating more of said crime.
* The idea that people will suddenly volunteer more is disproved by the same worldwide phenomena. It is the people who already have jobs who volunteer, the janitor who then works an afternoon picking up trash at the park. Instead, we have welfare recipients and able bodied people on social security with ADD unwilling to pick up trash where they live.
* You are assuming that shifting to AI to make decisions is unbiased. No, it will have the biases of the programmers - and those are currently people who programmed the decision making algorithms that denied a woman in Oregon cancer treatment and sent her info on assisted suicide, or HMOs that denied care due to cost but now the doctor will be even more limited by the all-powerful computer that puts little value on human life.

I don’t know if I actually got through any of their heads. They’d never even HEARD pro-human arguments like this. If I hadn’t been a female engineer talking about the future of STEM and technology, thus a novelty, they’d likely have ignored me.

[tbw2]

Black people calling for death to whites and segregation of whites increasingly attacking whites in mob violence (and in smaller groups via the Knockout Game/Polar Bear Hunting) are somehow exempt from the discussion on how to respect one another.

[SE Mom]

He has tapped it, Durden sees the truth.

We are in such trouble.

[grumpygresh]

This was a general statement. No personal offense intended.

1. Those government workers awake and willing to warn other of the threat posed by government. Whistleblowers and those seeking to undermine and expose corrupt government instiutions. These are patriots but a small minority.
2. Those awake, but inactive. They want to live under the radar.
3. Those that are aware in some sense, but in denial because of cognitive dissonance.
4. Those that are completely ignorant. Watching NFL and DWTS.
5. Those that are aware and on board with tyranny and will do what it takes for advancement in the evil system.

I would imagine that most would fit into 2-4. The problem is that these people keep the evil system going and are complicit.

[Lysandru]

This guy is channeling me.

I have been saying stuff like this for months.

[Noumenon]

You get it. This is what it takes.

[ozzymandus]

That is true.

[DungeonMaster]

That would be “Bomber” Harris, the RAF general who claimed killing as many German civilians as possible would end the war. He tried it for about 3 years, killed a few hundred thousand women and children, and accomplished nothing but making the Germans more angry and stubborn. Incidentally, the USAF bombed in daylight so they could see where their bombs were dropping, but the RAF bombed indiscriminately at night because it was “safer” for their crews. That part didn’t work out so well when the Germans developed radar-controlled flak guns and radar-equipped night fighters.

Yes that is him. I was just reminded of that yesterday as I finished the video. They called him "Butch" because he butchered the Germans. I felt that he was shown in a more positive light as they reminded us of who and what England was up against. The enemy was a hideous and brutal dictatorship and they were winning every conflict. We only bombed during daylight hours because our "new bomb sights" required line of sight. England didn't depend on that. The loss of planes and airman was terrible for England. Can you imagine getting on a plane with only about a 66 percent chance of returning, then doing it again the next day and then the next?

[Jack Black]

Thanks for the heads up FreedomPoster!

Indeed, this deserves a CW II Ping!

FR rules do not permit advocating for the overthrow of the Republic, and I am not aware of anyone doing so on the list. Still many do see that as the political climate worsens we may be heading in a direction that makes such a conflict all but inevitable, particularly if other avenues for resolving our differences are taken away. Such as widespread vote fraud by leftists making elections meaningless, or a small cadre of judges over-ruling all attempts to end destructive policies over the clear will of the people.

The correct keyword tag for the Civil War II ping list is "CWII". Please Freep Mail me to get on the list

[ctdonath2]

“The idea that people will suddenly volunteer more is disproved by the same worldwide phenomena.”

This one keeps baffling me. While it may occasionally occur, and proponents of the notion may keep company with those who do, my recurring experience is what you conclude. Time and again: when I go out to actively & directly assist the needy, I usually find they are able-bodied adults spending the day in their PJs sitting around watching TV in housing paid for by others (or, sometimes, actively destroying what little they do have) - while I’m sacrificing my time/money/skills to feed them & fix their stuff. For a great many, their aspiration in life is (to quote Nirvana) “here we are now, entertain us”; those who actually have the “volunteer” mindset are naturally productive enough to only need brief help and proceed to earn their own way, not needing society to hand them freebies just so they can “volunteer”.

As for your other points:
- Ancient Japanese culture (among others) found great value in treating “boring & demeaning” jobs with high honor, each doing their very best and raising their occupation to an art form - even if so mundane as “floor sweeper”. I take great pride & care in all things, finding no act “boring or demeaning”.
- Those not, as above, naturally taking care in all things are still in need of occupation and challenge; lacking it, they either devolve into abject boredom filled with petty amusements (TV), or create artificial challenges & conflicts (organized crime).
- I write software for a living. No way in he11 do I want public policy set & enforced by software, precisely because I know how it will fail - and fail it will.

Amazing how many people have full faith in the natural self-advancement and mutual-care of the population at large. Get rid of jobs as a necessity thru some utopian scheme, and we’ll quickly devolve into abject tribalism. “Utopian”, for that matter, comes from the book “Utopia” where the author depicts exactly such a perfect society, satirically demonstrating how completely f***ed up it will become.

[doorgunner69]

Baby Boomers have lived the most care free and charmed life in the history of this violent world

What were you doing 1965-1969? My life was not care free and it was frequently violent.

[B4Ranch]

When the boat tips over, I don’t think many people will make it to the shore.

[virgil]

Mass immigration mixed with multiculturalism has eroded our social cohesion as one people.

[Laser_Ray]

I got into a pretty nasty discussion with someone who thought that “Freeing the poor from work to survive” was a brilliant idea, and who refused to account for the fact that poor people with nothing to do are more dangerous to themselves and others than a can of gasoline because the can doesn’t walk away and pour itself all over your porch.

Not to mention that poor people with nothing to do have a bad habit of getting all their exercise on a mattress when their home situation is such that they wouldn’t be allowed to adopt a stray kitten from my city’s animal shelter.

[Laser_Ray]

Once talked to a WW2 vet who said his name with the same tone my pastor talked about demons. I was young at the time but what I remember was basically England didn’t have anywhere near the capability to do what he wanted. So he ended up killing enough Fraulein and kinder to make the Nazis mad as all hell (and Lord help the man facing an angry German) while getting scarce war material and pilots lost.

I asked him what should’ve been done and he said “put every man-jack into a Spitfire and shot down every Hun we could get a bullet into until all their good crews were gone.”

[tbw2]

Charles Murray’s book “Coming Apart” and others on how we have a young adult generation now completely isolated socially from the middle and lower class - so they have no idea what it is like and are prone to assigning collective guilt for it - seems very apt.
Even among Gen X, I’m the exception of being middle class but working my way through high school and college. No one around me ever knew what it was like to be poor except maybe briefly during a divorce.

[NFHale]

“..using industrialized methods...”

So they’d like to believe.