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To: Olog-hai

I don’t understand why this has to happen, why certain states licenses are not allowed for federal purposes. And why it’s important.

A number of states give drivers licenses to illegal aliens and legal immigrants now. So a state ID is no longer, if it ever was, any sort of proof of citizenship.

This law evolved out of 9/11. I don’t know about the ID of Mohammad Atta and his boys, but I assume that they, as all foreign visitors, used their foreign issued passports as ID. So if the goal is to have positive ID of people, we still have to depend on how other countries deal with passports, relating to foreign students and tourists.

So, bottom line, for no good reason, Pennsylvania residents will need to get a US passport to get on a plane?? Is this really helping all of our security to force them to do this????


6 posted on 10/17/2016 12:49:57 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Dilbert, you don’t get it? I live in one of the States whose Legislature stood up to the Feds and said that we were responsible for our own drivers’ licenses. The Obama folks found that unacceptable and immediately started pressuring us in every way possible.

The purpose, of course, like everything out of this corrupt regime, is to make it easier for terrorists and illegal aliens to blend in with society. How? . . . by passing out licenses like Halloween candy and then claiming that they are proof sufficient for voting, flying, getting benefits intended for citizens or anything else that illegal aliens find it difficult to do now. Of course, it is difficult FOR A REASON! But the Feds don’t want that and they certainly don’t want States to have even a sliver of autonomy left.


13 posted on 10/17/2016 12:58:42 PM PDT by oldplayer
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To: Dilbert San Diego

This is just defacto natl id.


18 posted on 10/17/2016 1:11:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Really they were just using 9-11 as an excuse to get some standards in DLs. And somewhat it makes sense, DLs were so random in format and style it was basically impossible for anybody to really tell if that DL from a state more than 1 timezone away was real. When 9-11 happened AZ DLs were good until you were 65 with no need for a new photo, and they’d just recently moved away from the hand laminated “student ID” style. They were actually very difficult to use away from AZ because they looked like forgeries.

So at the core it wasn’t a terrible idea. Of course the way government works there’s always that disconnect between idea and execution. Some states just can’t seem to bother to comply, other states actually passed laws refusing to comply, some states say they won’t comply but then do, some states find way to comply that keep their IDs looking weird and defeat the whole purpose. Meanwhile NY still isn’t in compliance, so the deadline will be extended.


26 posted on 10/17/2016 1:22:40 PM PDT by discostu (If you need to load or unload go to the white zone, you'll love it, it's a way of life)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“A number of states give drivers licenses to illegal aliens and legal immigrants now. So a state ID is no longer, if it ever was, any sort of proof of citizenship.”

Apparently, some of the easiest states for illegals to get driver’s licenses failed to step up to the new Federal standards to get their state licenses okayed.

So their love of illegals could possibly force legal citizens to get passports to fly and to enter Federal buildings and military bases.

California, naturally is one of those states and could impact legal Californians after June 2017.


27 posted on 10/17/2016 1:28:45 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are not electing a saint. We are electing an ass kicker! Vote for Trump! Defeat Illiarily!)
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