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This election is much more than Trump vs. Clinton. It's old America vs. new America
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 21, 2016 | Cathleen Decker and Noah Bierman

Posted on 10/21/2016 6:57:59 PM PDT by artichokegrower

The contrast in the 2016 presidential election was as evident Thursday as it has ever been: Donald Trump spoke to a largely white audience in Ohio, a state that has traditionally picked presidents but finds itself somewhat marginalized this year.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: clinton; election; projection; trump
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To: artichokegrower

The other night, I watched the cable channel Buzzr (spelled correctly) which airs game shows from prior decades. I watched “What’s My Line” with a host named John Daly who I thought was utterly fantastic and his command of the English language was sensational. To hear women such as Arlene Francis speak was inspiring. There was class, dignity and pride. I don’t know these people political perspectives but they oozed charm. Then I switched channels and came across typical modern-day crass and the dumbing down of America was surpassed only by the self-professed progressives who are nothing more than parasites.


41 posted on 10/21/2016 8:07:48 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: ConservativeStatement
Groucho Marx destroys "What's My Line?"
42 posted on 10/21/2016 8:11:01 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius

I will save that for later, thanks.


43 posted on 10/21/2016 8:17:03 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: Publius

All hail Fredonia!


44 posted on 10/21/2016 8:28:36 PM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make up stuff. It wastes time.)
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To: broken_clock
it seems by the "new" America they mean the good citizens attacking Trump people and bombing offices and throwing bricks thru windows....

its the rioters burning down buildings in Baltimore and Ferguson...

45 posted on 10/21/2016 8:31:40 PM PDT by cherry
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To: artichokegrower

Command and control central government works very well. Look at Argentina, Venezuela, East Germany, North Korea and the Soviet Union for great examples.


46 posted on 10/21/2016 8:34:32 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: artichokegrower

“This election is much more than Trump vs. Clinton. It’s old America vs. new America”

Further brainwashing, including here, “America”, never the United States.


47 posted on 10/21/2016 8:36:31 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is is the Government Work-Camp)
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To: artichokegrower

This election is freedom vs slavery, simple as that.


48 posted on 10/21/2016 8:36:33 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: broken_clock

Los Angeles Times will become irrelevant when the majority of the city’s population speaks Spanish and can’t read the damn paper.


49 posted on 10/21/2016 8:41:12 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

It’s solid strong America vs absolute weakened chaos.


50 posted on 10/21/2016 8:51:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (18 days: Until Presdient Pre-elect becomes President Elect Donald J. Trump. Help is on the way!)
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To: artichokegrower

I ask the Times to consider one thing .

If this is just about Old White America supporting Trump

Why do we have allies that use to be consider “not on our side” like Anonymous and Wikileaks going after Hillary?,

why is Reddit a hotbed of Trump support?

..these are hardly the domains of Old White America


51 posted on 10/21/2016 9:34:24 PM PDT by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans are in rebellion... teach him why)
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To: Sasparilla
That sums it up. There is a MASSIVE SPIRITUAL WAR AND BATTLE BEING WAGED IN THE UNSEEN, SPIRITUAL RELM BY GOD AND SATAN FOR THE HEART, SOUL AND VERY EXISTENCE OF THE NATION!

Satan is doing everything within his power; he has pulled out all of the stops and is using everything and everyone at his disposal to destroy the nation from within and Hillary Clinton is his nefarious tool to bring about this nation's destruction and death.

At this point only our Almighty God and Savior Jesus Christ can save us as a nation (tagline).

The most important question of all is this: Will He? Although millions of Americans like myself are praying to that end.. I do not know if He will.

America is "ripe unto judgment" and frankly, given the height, bredth and depths of our multiplied sin's against Him, we deserve it. That said, God in His mercy spared Nineveh and the Assyrians because they heeded Jonah's dire warning of impending judgment, humbled themselves from the greatest to the least, repented and turned in faith to Him.

God mercifully stayed His hand and withheld His judgment for decades. However, eventually He judged and destroyed Assyria because they returned to their evil, wicked ways.

For the sake of the righteous remnant in the land I pray that He has mercy upon America and spares us. However, God is sovereign; He is in control and like the Lord Jesus said: "I pray this cup passes from me; nevertheless not my will, but thy will be done."

And in the pattern prayer Jesus used to teach His disciples HOW TO PRAY (not what to words to say/pray) Jesus said that no matter what our circumstances we should always ask that GOD'S WILL, not ours, would be accomplished on the earth just as His will is absolutely carried out in heaven, and that HIS KINGDOM, not ours would be established on earth.

In this spiritual battle and election, our job is to:

1) Pray for God's mercy upon our nation and for Mr. Trump's victory and

2) Do our part by putting feet to our prayers and diligently working as gard as possible to the end that Mr. Trump gets elected.

However, while we must pray and do our very best: We ultimately have to SUBMIT to the sovereign will of God, leave the results with Him and TRUST in Him that "He is working all things after the counsel of His will", no matter what the outcome.

*Note: This does NOT mean we are to roll over, play dead and "accept the results" if their is clear evidence of cheating and mass voter fraud in the outcome that Hillary Clinton wins.

In that case, we, along with Mr. Trump must LEGALLY DO EVERYTHING WITHIN OUR POWER TO CONTEST THE OUTCOME OF THE FRAUDULENT ELECTION; AND COME TO A LEGAL DECISION AS TO WHO ACTUALLY WON BASED UPON THE RULE OF LAW: RECOUNTING ALL OF THE LEGITIMATE/GENUINE VOTES CAST FOR EACH CANDIDATE BY LIVING, PROPERLY REGISTERED, AMERICAN CITIZEN VOTERS.

ALL FRAUDULENT VOTES MUST BE THROWN OUT AND WHOEVER WINS; WHETHER IT IS HILLARY CLINTON OR DONALD TRUMP, WE MUST ALL SUBMIT TO THE GENUINE, LEGAL OUTCOME/DECISION. Resting in the knowledge that our HOLY, LOVING, JUST, and ALTOGETHER RIGHTEOUS God is SOVEREIGN and ALMIGHTY; He is still on the throne and HIS WILL (whether it be mercy or judgment upon our nation) is being done.

52 posted on 10/21/2016 10:10:50 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: artichokegrower

“......Donald Trump spoke to a largely white audience.....” I stopped reading right there.


53 posted on 10/21/2016 10:17:41 PM PDT by Gator113 (Vote TRUMP!! -- "Because you'd be in Jail!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When the killing starts, they will quickly learn just how talented we can be at defending ourselves.


54 posted on 10/21/2016 10:23:29 PM PDT by Gator113 (Vote TRUMP!! -- "Because you'd be in Jail!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

electricity...space flight....airplanes...atomic energy..firearms...its all whiteys fault


55 posted on 10/21/2016 11:21:23 PM PDT by basalt
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To: depressed in 06
It is America vs. Amerika.

I now liken it to the:

Rebuilding Jerusalem vs. Babylonian Captivity

Who is the one anointed for the task?

Is Donald Trump...
our Lord's modern annointed Cyrus (ISAIAH 45)

"common grace"

God's trumpet!!!


56 posted on 10/21/2016 11:23:41 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (ELITE IMMUNITY: how the NWO puppetsmasters / puppets continue to function)
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To: artichokegrower
This election is much more than Trump vs. Clinton

It's old legislative America vs. new administrative America.

It's constitutional government vs. unconstitutional government.

57 posted on 10/22/2016 5:59:53 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
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